AudioLinux and NUC Troubleshooting and Tuning

[Monge]

After Ramboot Enable In Al Headless 0.6 with Putty then I need to reboot. But whats the reboot command and where should I be.

Thanks Monge

[Monge]

2 hours ago, mourip said:

 

Reboot with the command:
sudo reboot

 

I now have a Word document with all of the commands and tips from Piero's web site and the two threads here on CA. Very useful.
 

Thanks.

Now I could hear how my NUC7CJYH with ramboot enabled.

Wow...

Thanks to Roy, Larry, Piero and everyone Else here for all their hard work ?

 

I am using my Nuc as a Streamer for Tidal with MPD and UPnP enabled and installed with an Android Phone with Bubble UPnP App.

 

I ned another NUC for Roon core.

 

Cheers Monge

 

 

[Monge]

I have a Strange thing going on here with my NUC7CJYH with 2x4GB ram running AL Headless 0.6 with Ramboot Enabled (rebooted) with enabled MPD and UPnP services and installed.

I start the Bubble App and choose a playlist In Tidal and start playing. Then I pull the   

AL USB stick and the music keep playing but the startnumber on my Android Phone like freeze and I cant change number or playlist. But the music on the playlist keep playing. Only that I can not do anything to control it.

 

Cheers

[Monge]

I just got a NUC7PJYH delivered. My plan is to run Roon Server with AL on the NUC7PJYH and Roon bridge Al on my NUC7CJYH.

But forgive me ny newbie questions about Roon.

I have never tried Roon before.

Q1: I Think I need 16GB ram?

Q2: Do I need a SSD disk for the NUC7PJYH for the install of Roon Server or can I run Roon core on the AL USB disk/ramboot?

Q3: I am going to stream Tidal Hi-Fi mainly and for that should I use Roon Remote or Ipeng on an IPAD?

Thanks.

[Monge]

@hifi25nl Audiolinux 0.7 with new improved menu. 

Thanks for the Update ? Lots of goodies. It’s very, very nice. It very easy to install Squeezerlite R2, Squeezerlite, LMS, MPD and Upmpdcli from the menu. Also I like the Status menu a lot.

First I forgot to type “menu” instead of alconf.

It’s nice that you Can login via browser. I logged In via Safari with http://ipaddress:8500

There are a lot to like In AL 0.7

Thanks a lot for your hard work.

Cheers Monge

[Monge]

I’m going to try LMS and Squeezelite In AL Headless 0.7.

Also I want to try Ipeng app on my IPAD air with latest IOS,  but I’m In doubt which Ipeng version to get?

 

http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2017/09/19/ipeng-is-ready-for-ios-11/

 

One 8GB Ballistix LT Sport 2400 MHz So Dimm 260 pin stick for NUC7PJYH.

Does it work with one 8GB stick or...

Thanks In advance.

[Monge]

44 minutes ago, mozes said:

Guys I need some help pls.

How do I get to the configuration menu in AL 0.7 headless?

Also can I install Jriver in headless or only in LXQT?

Look here:

https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/54933-audiolinux-and-nuc-troubleshooting-and-tuning/?page=21&tab=comments#comment-907159

[Monge]

@mozes I’m sure you have enabled the services after install.

Did you leave onboard Audio unchecked or checked In bios? Try leaving it checked.

In AL 0.7 you have the status undermenu where you Can check Audiocard etc.

I use the USB port(upper) on the back of my CJYH

You Can also try to poweroff your NUC and your audiogear. Then power on DAC, Pre and poweramp. Last you power on your NUC.

 

 

 

[Monge]

A good command to see your playback devices is

 

aplay -l

Then your DAC should have a CARD number.

Merry Christmas.

 

[Monge]

22 hours ago, lmitche said:

Unless I missed something, there is no reason to check the audio box with a usb DAC or DDC.

My mistake. Sorry. 

I just tried to leave the Onboard Audio unchecked In BIOS and running AL 0.7 it works like a charm.

It tried it a couple of times In earlier Al versions and I could not get it to work.

Thanks for correcting me and have a Merry Christmas.

[Monge]

Which numbers do the rear and front USB 3 have In BIOS CJYH/PJYH?

There are 6 USB 3 ports that can be disabled In BIOS incl USB headers. I only need two.

[Monge]

On CJYH

I tried to disable USB ports 4,5 and 6. So I think the blue port on front is number 4 course I could’nt use my wireless keyboard (connectet at blue port at front) after reboot.

So I think the USB ports on the rear is 1 and 2 and the front USB ports is 3 Yellow and 4 blue.

Also I have the option to set USB ports In the BIOS to “no detect”.

[Monge]

Thanks I’ll have a look at the PJYH BIOS as I have new PJYH too here waiting for ram to be delivered.

Cheers and Merry Christmas.

Monge

[Monge]

I’m trying to stream Tidal with IPeng App to my CJYH diskless with Squeezelite+LMS on this machine only.

I have installed LMS and Squeezelite and started the services and rebooted.

But then I open Ipeng on my IPAD and click PlayerName I see audiolinux for a short while and then it disappear and it says “No Players and Music Sources (Servers) found. 

I did register ny IPAD on mysqueezebox.com and added Tidal app and some radiostations here.

Do I need to add a plugin on AL headless (0.8) and how?

I have the Ipeng app, but do I need to buy Ipeng UE also?

 

[Monge]

35 minutes ago, austinpop said:

 

Did you configure squeezelite by:

• running squeezelite -l to identify the name of the audio device,
• then, editing the squeezelite.conf file to match that name? 

As far as I know, this is a manual step that needs to be done.

No I did not. Thanks I’ll try that.

[Monge]

I’m using Putty for remote login and WinSCP to navigate the AL filesystem like @afrancois did.

But then I try to edit a file in AL root I cannot save it course I don’t have permissions to do so. 

 

How do I get permission or acesss to do so In WinSCP?

 

Thanks Monge

[Monge]

24 minutes ago, BigAlMc said:

 

Hi @Monge,

 

In WINSCP just change the user to root and password to audiolinux0

 

Cheers,

Alan

Thank you very much. I tried a lot of things but not user root.

Cheers Monge

[Monge]

I have had a strange experiment with my NUC7PJYH running SqueezeLite and LMS running on the same NUC running Al headlees 0.99. I Set CPU governor custom 1500000 both min. and max and turbo off. 

Then I set Isolated CPU cores to half, USB=Y and Extreme 2 and rebooted and enabled the SqueezeLite and LMS serviced and hit play In Ipeng app and wow I had newer heard my Music Sound that good. 

I had to change my BOTW P&P Eco to the brick SMPS.

Then I began analyzing and found out that the CPU frequency was 2697..... on all 4 cores and turbo =on.

After 3 hours continiuos play the CPU core temperature was 49-50C.

 

 

[Monge]

46 minutes ago, bobfa said:

There have been some menu changes in AL about CPU isolation.  You might want to check out the menu updates

Thanks :😀

I’ll take a look at it.

The performancee improvement with the CPU at 2697.... or/and with the isolated cpus for Audio was very clear to my ears more 3D and more bass extention.

If I only had a JS-2 powersupply for my NUC.

Thanks to Piero for the development of isolateded CPU for Audio In AL.

Great work

Cheers Monge

 

[Monge]

11 hours ago, rickca said:

I don't understand this.  You set CPU governor min=max=1500000 and yet your CPU frequency was 2697?  I assume you mean 2.697 GHz because the burst frequency of the J5005 is 2.8 GHz.

 

Also, there's no such thing as turbo boost on the J5005.  Do you turn off SpeedStep in the BIOS?

 

Can you please explain what USB=Y does?

Yeah I mean 2.697 GHz and no I did not turn OFF the SpeedStep in BIOS as I wanted to play with the Governor settings.

When you isolate CPU core for Audio you get 3 questions and the second is if you want to isolate CPU core for IRQ to USB  Y or N and I choose Y.

 

[Monge]

2 hours ago, austinpop said:

Also, the ability to set custom frequencies, even without isolated cores, seems to be very system and motherboard dependent. I don't know if this is tied to the BIOS implementation. I would try this in a disciplined manner:

1. First, without isolated cores, with Turbo/SpeedStep turned ON in the BIOS, try custom frequencies
   1. with Turbo OFF, can you set any frequency from base frequency to lower?
   2. with Turbo ON, can you set any frequency between base frequency to peak?
2. Experiment, and find a frequency that sounds best to you. For many, this is the base frequency. But if you have a really clean PSU, perhaps this will be a frequency HIGHER than base, but LOWER than peak.
3. Confirm your frequency settings are being honored by monitoring frequency status
4. Now, turn on isolated cores, reboot etc, then set custom frequency as you found in step 2
5. Now check frequency status. Is the governor setting being honored?

Hi austinpop,

I haven’t had time to play more with CPU governor settings and isolated CPU cores, for Audio, but I have ordered 2 more 16 GB USB sticks to try out newest AL headlees version.

Thank you very much for your guide. 

But one thing I noticed is, that with higher CPU frequency the bass extention was improoved ( not surpricing).

But I had to change my BOTW P&P Eco course I experienced glitched In the playback

So I had to change to the Brick SMPS for the NUC7PJYH. I need to find the sweet spot.

Cheers Monge

 

[Monge]

1 hour ago, HeeBroG said:

I have my NUC7PJYH running SqueezeLite and LMS on the same NUC running Al Headless.

After much frustration I have managed to run it in Extreme2 and Ramboot mode as suggested.

I understand in Ramboot mode one can remove the USB boot drive for further improvement.

I tried this but LMS freezes and I lose my connection and ability to play via Squeezelite.

I would appreciate some advice please.

You were able to play music before pulling the USB stick?

Did you uncheck Onboard Audio In the BIOS?

You should check the ramroot status In Status menu and show running services In configuration menu.

Also when enabling ramroot you should reboot.

Do you get any error message In your control App?

[Monge]

@HeeBroG You should se this In 

 

RAMROOT STATUS

ramroot status enabled

root filesystem loaded to RAM

 

Remember to save if in ramroot mode when making a change.

Did you change the SqueezeLite.conf?

[Monge]

I normally configure AL as I wan’t, make sure it works without ramroot enabled.

The last thing I do is to enable ramboot and reboot.

[Monge]

11 hours ago, Boomboy said:

Thnx @jcn3 there is no side scroll so I pressed down and 2 more options appeared .

Is this the procedure? 

Stop running processes .. isolated 2 cores .. save into ram .. then reboot ? 

 

What does isolate irq threads mean ? Should I say y to that ?

I would start with Realtime Priority set to Extreme.

Then isolate CPU cores to Audio under Configuration Menu:

Half

isolate CPU cores to irq threads  USB=Y if NUC7PHYH is you endpoint

Extreme2

 

Then under Configuration Menu - Save if in ramroot mode.

Reboot

Enable services under Configuration Menu

 Configuration Menu - save if In ramroot mode 

Then check it all In Status menu