patagent Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 If you want to use optical inputs, you might want to consider Google Chromecast Audio. They’ve stopped making these but you can still purchase them eBay. Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, patagent said: If you want to use optical inputs, you might want to consider Google Chromecast Audio. They’ve stopped making these but you can still purchase them eBay. I'd recommend keeping a safe distance from CC. The sound quality is absolutely rubbish. Further, optical usually produced high jitter levels, which in turn kill the SQ. Go coax if possible. Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
TomWoB Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Use RCA-RCA (Attention: you need a digital RCA cabel) ! ... oups doesn't work, see my post below !!! Why do you say the inputs doesnˋt match? It makes no sense to convert to Toslink ... and it costs a lot of money for nothing... Link to comment
Amgclk65 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Thanks for responding , I’m in a Apple ecosystem. So I want to use the best setup for that. So I was told Apple AirPlay would be the best way to extract audio from my Apple TV. So I purchased airport express to send an optical signal to my LS50w. It works for the most part. I just stumbled on the Digione thinking it may offer a cleaner audio signal versus the airport express. Link to comment
Amgclk65 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @LowMidHigh the toslink jitter had me thinking for a better signal. I considered getting a IFI SPDIF to help with jitter. @TomWoB as far as the inputs not matching. I was meaning a direct connection. The LS50w doesn’t have a digital coaxial input, only toslink. I figured a $20-30 converter would work. Just wasn’t sure about the converter killing audio quality. I’m not familiar with BNC connection. I guessing it would be BNC to RCA ? Thanks for repsonding guys. Link to comment
TomWoB Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Ah .... I just saw, the RCAs on the LS50w are "analog inputs", so you can't connect these RCAs with the digital RCA output of the DigiOne ! If you really want to use Toslink, use a HAT for the Raspberry Pi which has Toslink build-in, like: HiFiBerry Digi+ Pro DigiOne using with an optical connection makes absolute no sense, because with "a $20-30 converter" you will lose the very high sound quality of a DigiOne anyway, so the HiFiBerry matches much better (and cheaper). Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Amgclk65 said: @LowMidHigh the toslink jitter had me thinking for a better signal. I considered getting a IFI SPDIF to help with jitter. @TomWoB as far as the inputs not matching. I was meaning a direct connection. The LS50w doesn’t have a digital coaxial input, only toslink. I figured a $20-30 converter would work. Just wasn’t sure about the converter killing audio quality. I’m not familiar with BNC connection. I guessing it would be BNC to RCA ? Thanks for repsonding guys. Bro, I tried to scrub TOSLINK jitter through a cascade of 3 x Mutec-MC3 tethered to a REF10. An $8,000 setup. Still sounded like crap!!! Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
Amgclk65 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @TomWoB i did see the Hifi board. Would you consider that an improvement over a 2nd gen Apple airport express via toslink ? @LowMidHigh okay, I’ll save my money and pass on the IFI UNIT. Link to comment
Molins Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 You need the USB Version of Digione, called USB Bridge: https://www.allo.com/sparky/usbridge.html Link to comment
Amgclk65 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 @Molins thanks , I didn’t catch that one. I’ll give that a try. Wish amazon carried it. Looks like I need to purchase direct. Also does usb bridge works well as a Airplay unit ? Link to comment
Molins Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 No idea with Airplay, sorry. USBridge works the same as Digione, only by USB output. Link to comment
Amgclk65 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 hey, I’m second guessing ordering a Allo Usbridge . Reason is , how much will it increase my audio quality via AirPlay . That’s all I plan to use it for. Wish someone compared it to an airport express toslink audio quality. AirPlay is limited to 16bit/44. I guess worst case I’ll be out shipping back to Canada. Link to comment
Molins Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Anyone does know a ms-windows based software for conversion DSD -> PCM/FLAC pls? I am aware of this TASCAM https://www.tascam.eu/de/downloads/current/Hi-Res%2BEditor but it takes ages for just one file and it works only file by file and I need to convert a few albums. Done. I found plug-in for foobar at https://sourceforge.net/projects/sacddecoder/ Link to comment
smith123 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hi, Could someone please tell me if I can safely use this LPSU with my DigiOne Player? I was using it before with a Beresford Caiman MKII DAC with great results. Thanks, Link to comment
TiTix Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hi, my allo digione player comes with volumio... This software can't provide me equalizer features... a shame. Room compensation is a necessary feature for serious audiophile player. Parametric equalizer exist with moodeaudio, but not for volumio. Someone can help me for install moodeaudio on my player and replace Volumio. Thanks Link to comment
Molins Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 11:52 AM, TiTix said: Hi, my allo digione player comes with volumio... This software can't provide me equalizer features... a shame. Room compensation is a necessary feature for serious audiophile player. Parametric equalizer exist with moodeaudio, but not for volumio. Someone can help me for install moodeaudio on my player and replace Volumio. Thanks Volumio has an EQ parametric just look under plugins! Link to comment
Goroz Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi, I want to ask if it can, and does it make sense to replace the PCB raspberry pi 3B+ of the allo digi one streamer with raspberry pi 4 and will this improve productivity? Link to comment
uniquesnowflake Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Goroz said: Hi, I want to ask if it can, and does it make sense to replace the PCB raspberry pi 3B+ of the allo digi one streamer with raspberry pi 4 and will this improve productivity? Not sure your definition of "productivity", but the RPi 4 i2s lines are noisier than RPi 3, so it may be detrimental for audio use. Link to comment
uniquesnowflake Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Goroz said: Hi, I want to ask if it can, and does it make sense to replace the PCB raspberry pi 3B+ of the allo digi one streamer with raspberry pi 4 and will this improve productivity? Speaking from experience, the best investment to make SQ wise would be 1) Digione Sig 2) Shanti 3) USBridge Sigi to replace Pi Link to comment
nbpf Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, uniquesnowflake said: Speaking from experience, the best investment to make SQ wise would be 1) Digione Sig 2) Shanti 3) USBridge Sigi to replace Pi Thus, have you found the USBridge Sig to be an improvement over a RPi3 for hosting a DigiOne Signature? In which terms? Thanks, nbpf Link to comment
Goroz Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Speaking from experience, the best investment to make SQ wise would be 1) Digione Sig 2) Shanti 3) USBridge Sigi to replace Pi Thank you uniquesnowflake you mean to replace Digione Sig with USBridge ? Link to comment
allo.com Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 12 hours ago, nbpf said: Thus, have you found the USBridge Sig to be an improvement over a RPi3 for hosting a DigiOne Signature? In which terms? Thanks, nbpf We see a difference in THD harmonic distortion when using RPI vs Usbridge Sig with a Digione Sig. Why ? We don't know. There should be none..and yet we see it Link to comment
nbpf Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, allo.com said: We see a difference in THD harmonic distortion when using RPI vs Usbridge Sig with a Digione Sig. Why ? We don't know. There should be none..and yet we see it And ... this difference speaks for the USBridge Sig and against the RPi, right? Link to comment
uniquesnowflake Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 18 hours ago, nbpf said: Thus, have you found the USBridge Sig to be an improvement over a RPi3 for hosting a DigiOne Signature? In which terms? Thanks, nbpf Normally I'd give a new component 50+ hours minimum before making an assessment, but the improvement is obvious enough that I'm happy to make a preliminary assessment. One of the first things I noticed is the level of fine detail, presumably due to darker background. This is a very similar experience IMO compared to upgrading to a quieter, higher quality power supply. Not that it was lacking in my previous setup, yet the Audiophile Pi somehow took the sense of presence and realism one step further. I enjoy the fuller, sweeter midrange and authoritative bass of my "new" transport. However, this is interesting as the RPi3+Digione Sig setup seemed to have more emphasis on the treble side. Please note that this is just an early impression, and that I'm using the stock DietPi + ALLO GUI that came with the Audiophile Pi, while my RPi3 ran an optimized picoreplayer as endpoint with a dedicated LMS server. Link to comment
uniquesnowflake Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Goroz said: Speaking from experience, the best investment to make SQ wise would be 1) Digione Sig 2) Shanti 3) USBridge Sigi to replace Pi Thank you uniquesnowflake you mean to replace Digione Sig with USBridge ? I meant to replace the Digione with Digione Sig in case you have the original. I replaced the RPi3 (not Digione Sig) with USBridge Sig. Link to comment
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