How DOES the grounding boxes work?

[mansr]

25 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Wow esldude! I am impressed that you are actually trying to figure this out! I am not against the antenna clue at all. It is just so much negative impressions buried in that word. Tourmaline stones have really amazing properties if you start to learn about them. They are used in many different areas for their antistatic properties. Read about it. If you put pressure on tourmaline stones they'll release a lot of negatively charged ions. Think about if for a moment. Ground is negatively charged. It is right here where the puzzle starts. Why does negatively charged ions affect grounding?

Have you tried orgonite?

[mansr]

3 minutes ago, esldude said:

Or quartz? 

Does that help with chemtrails?

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2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I honestly do want to know how they work,

Your honesty doesn't seem to include the possibility that they don't work.

2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

but do not expect me to read the laws of physics.

Too bad. Physics is where you'll find the answer.

2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

I am only interested if someone have a clue how they work. Not if someone do not have a clue. 

Then why do you keep dismissing everybody who tries to give you an explanation?

[mansr]

Just now, Cornan said:

I think the OP clearly indicates that I want to know why they WORK. Not why the do not work. It would be interesting to know theories that explains a plausible explanation, even if that explanation does'nt include grounding in a proper sense.

How do pigs fly? I demand to know how they do it. Don't bother explaining that they have no wings.

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3 minutes ago, Jud said:

@Cornan, if there is an actual difference you are hearing, this is so far the only explanation I have seen that makes any sense to me.

And if this is indeed the case, a simple wire would work equally well.

[mansr]

7 minutes ago, Cornan said:

This is interesting since tourmaline stones are negatively charged

Hogwash.

[mansr]

8 minutes ago, Jud said:

I understand how it's intended to be used.

The box is primarily intended to transfer money from the audiophool to the manufacturer.

[mansr]

31 minutes ago, Cornan said:

This would be fine if I asked about how physics works. In this thread I would like to hear thoughts and plausible ideas how grounding boxes might work.

What makes you think grounding boxes are exempt from physics?

[mansr]

42 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

Ah, thanks. So because you don't understand it it can't work?

On the contrary, some of us understand why it can't work.

 

42 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

So it's safer to assume that Entreq has been around 16 or 17 years, based out of a 12,000 sq/m building selling products designed solely to deceive an unsuspecting customer base?

They wouldn't be the only ones.

 

42 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

Sorry to say that doesn't work for me. I personally don't have that little respect for the human race.

That doesn't mean others don't.

[mansr]

7 minutes ago, jabbr said:

There are circuit elements which have a single connection: an antennae is one, a capacitor is another

A capacitor has two connections. Attach only one, and it won't do a thing. An antenna is also more accurately seen as one of a pair of connections, the other being earth or the other half of a dipole antenna.

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2 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

Self-capacitance of a conductor involves the same second connection -- earth. A single conductor will not hold charge without an opposite charge on the other side of a dielectric.

Well, a piece of metal will hold a charge. To get the charge there in the first place, however, an opposite charge must be created somewhere.

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3 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Well that sounds like tourmalines to me! They will release negatively charged ions when presented with a positive charge (heat).

Positive charge is not the same thing as heat.

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3 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

The cable between the box and the component completes the circuit. My hypothesis is that the contents of the box, in conjunction with the noise, is what's creating the "buildup".

 

I do appreciate your feedback and tact, but it seems it may be you that doesn't want to hear or consider anything beyond your preconceived ideas about this? I say that with no offense intended but I do get that sense from reading your responses to my posts.

There are two possibilities:

1. You are wrong.
2. Maxwell, Ohm, Kirchhoff, Tesla, etc were all wrong.

I know which I think is more likely.

[mansr]

Just now, Cornan said:

No, but tourmaline stones releases negative ions with heat and pressure as well as with a positive charge.

Let's pretend this is true. What becomes of the remaining positive ions?

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3 minutes ago, Cornan said:

If you mean the excessive positive ions that cannot be stored my guess is that they returns the same way the came from. It will just be less of them.

Huh? If a substance is somehow made to release negative ions, there must be an equal build-up of positive ions within said substance. Where is it you suppose they would "return" to?

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6 minutes ago, marce said:

As I said earlier electrons in the presence of an electric field travel at approx 0.002mm/s,

In a metal, yes. In a vacuum such as inside a CRT they certainly travel considerably faster.

6 minutes ago, marce said:

there fore it would take them, so in 20 hours they will travel 150mm (6 inch) so there are no electrons rushing about, so no electron pool effect.

They may be slow, but there are very, very many of them.

[mansr]

11 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

It appears to be more of a box of sand than rocks. The workmanship reminds me of my daughter's first wood shop project:

 

http://www.monoandstereo.com/2015/12/entreq-tellus-passive-ground-system.html

Now I know where all the blocked ads go.

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Just now, semente said:

what people are listening or hope to listen when they "connect" such a product to their system.

Presumably the same as with all miracle products: lifted veils, wider soundstage, tighter bass, etc.

[mansr]

1 minute ago, fas42 said:

OK, the key word in what I quoted was "true" - that is, close to zero impedance to the earth mass under our feet, at all frequencies of interest - have I got that somewhere, in my room?

Doesn't really matter as long as you're not building antennas. Oh wait...

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15 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

Then what's the purpose of the box and it's contents?

It's to justify the price.