The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 View full article Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mlknez1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Why is the Dolby Reference Player still required? What is it doing? Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, mlknez1 said: Why is the Dolby Reference Player still required? What is it doing? It's the only way to decode TrueHD Atmos. MMH uses it int he background. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
ted_b Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Chris, Great update, and thanks for giving Garry his props. He's amazing with this stuff. Question: what happens when you choose a layout that is greater (or less) than the source layout (i.e choosing 9.1.6 on a 7.1.4 recording; or choosing 5.1 on a 7.1.4 recording). Does the latter have a fold-down done, and where are the rules of the fold-down happening? Does the former simply have silent wide channels? "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
jhwalker Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I may be overlooking it, but is there a link to download this software? Looking forward to giving it a try :) John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, ted_b said: Chris, Great update, and thanks for giving Garry his props. He's amazing with this stuff. Question: what happens when you choose a layout that is greater (or less) than the source layout (i.e choosing 9.1.6 on a 7.1.4 recording; or choosing 5.1 on a 7.1.4 recording). Does the latter have a fold-down done, and where are the rules of the fold-down happening? Does the former simply have silent wide channels? With Atmos there is no source or destination format. The decoder uses the speakers selction and creates the mix, exactly as it does using the decoder in a processor. If sound is in the side channels in the original mix, but the playback is on a 5.1.4 system, the side channel sound is place on the side by using the front and rear channels, the same way items are placed between the front two channels in stereo. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, jhwalker said: I may be overlooking it, but is there a link to download this software? Looking forward to giving it a try :) https://reva.blob.core.windows.net/mmh/publish.htm jhwalker 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mlknez1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: It's the only way to decode TrueHD Atmos. MMH uses it int he background. What about http://cavern.sbence.hu/cavern/ Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, mlknez1 said: What about http://cavern.sbence.hu/cavern/ That product cleverly uses terms, but only supports lossy Dolby Digital Plus. It says, "True Dolby Atmos with only a PC" but doesn't decode TrueHD. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 @jrobbins50 you need to tell Garry to add 5.1.2 :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
jrobbins50 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: @jrobbins50 you need to tell Garry to add 5.1.2 :~) Oh my goodness, this would be a substantial time savings. Yes, as you know, I do Dolby Atmos in 5.1.2 (which thus allows use of Roon for playback) and that isn't on Garry's list in the MMH update. How do I contact him, Chris? Also, I have MMH on my PC and the DRP on my Mac. I don't recall, but will the DRP run on PC, as I assume the Mac alone doesn't have the horsepower for the decoding? JCR Update: Nevermind the question on DRP for PC. I note that I already have it installed on my CAPS20 server (I just haven't used it there), so all I need is MMH on the server, and Garry to update for 5.1.2. :) kyoya78 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, jrobbins50 said: Oh my goodness, this would be a substantial time savings. Yes, as you know, I do Dolby Atmos in 5.1.2 (which thus allows use of Roon for playback) and that isn't on Garry's list in the MMH update. How do I contact him, Chris? Also, I have MMH on my PC and the DRP on my Mac. I don't recall, but will the DRP run on PC, as I assume the Mac alone doesn't have the horsepower for the decoding? JCR Just install DRP on your PC, then you're good. You don't even touch it. I'll tell Garry about your needs :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mlknez1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: That product cleverly uses terms, but only supports lossy Dolby Digital Plus. It says, "True Dolby Atmos with only a PC" but doesn't decode TrueHD. Thanks! Link to comment
jrobbins50 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Just install DRP on your PC, then you're good. You don't even touch it. I'll tell Garry about your needs :~) Yes, I realize now that he is Homer, the moderator, at QuadraphonicQuad. Whilst I've read that blog for many years, and have an account there, it was only my first posting to ask for 5.1.2, and I see that you beat me to it! Thanks. JCR Link to comment
Rt66indierock Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Cool stuff thanks. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
loop7 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I'm really curious where Atmos, in the home, will be in a decade. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, loop7 said: I'm really curious where Atmos, in the home, will be in a decade. It has been around for a decade now. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
DigiPete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 @The Computer Audiophile Will MMH trick streaming services, or are we still stuck with disks & downloaded files? Promise Pegasus2 R6 12TB -> Thunderbolt2 -> MacBook Pro M1 Pro -> Motu 8D -> AES/EBU -> Main: Genelec 5 x 8260A + 2 x 8250 + 2 x 8330 + 7271A sub Boat: Genelec 8010 + 5040 sub Hifiman Sundara, Sennheiser PXC 550 II Blog: “Confessions of a DigiPhile” Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, DigiPete said: @The Computer Audiophile Will MMH trick streaming services, or are we still stuck with disks & downloaded files? I don’t understand the question. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
DigiPete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I don’t understand the question. Will Tidal stream through this solution will full Atmos (NOT HD - I'm aware)? I'm asking because I'm tired of buying disks, only to find out that the mix is crap. Promise Pegasus2 R6 12TB -> Thunderbolt2 -> MacBook Pro M1 Pro -> Motu 8D -> AES/EBU -> Main: Genelec 5 x 8260A + 2 x 8250 + 2 x 8330 + 7271A sub Boat: Genelec 8010 + 5040 sub Hifiman Sundara, Sennheiser PXC 550 II Blog: “Confessions of a DigiPhile” Link to comment
El Guapo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, DigiPete said: Will Tidal stream through this solution will full Atmos (NOT HD - I'm aware)? Short answer is no. So far only Apple Music on macOS can do such. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
El Guapo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 12:13 AM, The Computer Audiophile said: It's the only way to decode TrueHD Atmos. MMH uses it int he background. Wow this is incredible! Just decoded an album to 7.1.4 wav then playback from HQPlayer the SQ is waaaay better than via virtual interface. Greatly appreciated Gary! The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
jrobbins50 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 hours ago, DigiPete said: Will Tidal stream through this solution will full Atmos (NOT HD - I'm aware)? I'm asking because I'm tired of buying disks, only to find out that the mix is crap. Perhaps your answer is to listen to the Atmos mix via Apple Spacial Music streaming first, to hear it even though in lossy format. If you like it and there is a disc to purchase with the TrueHD lossless Atmos version on it, you can then buy with greater confidence as to what the mix is. JCR Link to comment
ted_b Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 8:07 PM, El Guapo said: Short answer is no. So far only Apple Music on macOS can do such. I'm confused by this. What can you do in Apple Music on the MAC? "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, ted_b said: I'm confused by this. What can you do in Apple Music on the MAC? Play Atmos and output to DAC. All the other apps only play Atmos on mobile apps. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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