Ethan Winer Null Test For WIre

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I like wire.

 

 

You can wrap it in circles to make transformers

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better to just ignore Frank - along with GUTB

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tribo effect. are known to affect audio in microphone cables - which are often moved around

 

otherwise...

 

 

Bruno P. has an article on the internet somewhere about both effects - bottomline... just use balanced 

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1 hour ago, fas42 said:

 I don't understand

 

We know

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Another thing I don't understand is why some people have an innate compulsion to be unpleasant by continually posting ridiculous trash, poppycock, and balderdash by people who know absolutely nothing about the subject.

 

Spamming threads disrupts them, so maybe that is the point.

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speaking of the $6,000 year old universe...  I wonder if the Tricky God notion explains cable-ism?

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Sorry George, that is too rational.  You need to learn to Think Magically.

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Some people think they know a subject because they have done key research in the area, and then wrote the main review papers in the area.

 

Frank, you are not one of them in any area of study.  Your continued spamming of threads is either a mental problem or a deliberate attempt to disrupt the topics.

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URL to the Nordost study?

 

also, are we talking about speaker cables or about interconnects?  if the latter, RCA or balanced?

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2 minutes ago, Sonicularity said:

 

I don't find it perplexing as both are more than likely imaginary differences.   I consider both cables and digital filters to be audibly transparent from one another except in pathological scenarios.  These differences discussed have not been shown to be real with regards to the items under test.  If something is creating a distinct difference, it certainly would not be the cables that measure identically with regards to LCR.  Look elsewhere for the culprit.

 

One cannot see the filter in a conventional sense, but I'm willing to bet that if the filter change included an audible "click," the differences between any two would become just as apparent as any two cables with different appearances and costs.    

 

 

 

I bet I can design an interconnect cable that will eff up the sound.  And, I am certain that a competent EE can do so.

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3 minutes ago, esldude said:

https://nordost.com/downloads/NewApproachesToAudioMeasurement.pdf

 

Most of the links in this thread from the testing have been removed.  The testing promised much more results in the future, and wouldn't you know it they never materialized. 

 

 

There was other more in depth discussion somewhere here on CA.  

 

 

 

The Methods section is inadequate to support anything in the Results section.

 

Here is a tip I passed on to my own graduate students (after getting it from my own PhD adviser when I was young tike...):

 

Always read the Methods section first.  If it is not adequate, then there is no need to read the rest of the verbiage.

 

 

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scientists do other things besides science, including giving expert testimony in court

 

the test for whether something is science or not is in the methodology used

 

... things like controls

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16 hours ago, esldude said:

Striving toward live performance is a worthy goal.  Stereo has inherent limitations making that impossible.  The path to maybe get closer to the illusive goal isn't gilding the lily of stereo, but doing something else instead.  No golden ear gilding will do the trick.  I've come to this conclusion recording music.  Not any base level other than I've heard the live sound, and the live feed and the recording.  Stereo can't get us there.  MCH is a significant though not fully sufficient step forward.  

 

Even then, the main impediment is over-processed recordings which is true of 99.9% of those you can buy.  

 

well put

 

 

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1. distortions are tiny w.r.t. the benefits of multi-channel

2. distortions are not additive

 

you are certainly an odd one, shtf

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Let's cut to the chase:

 

"even a computer that's not "optimized" for audio with ostensibly "noisy" hardware does not actually deteriorate measured playback quality nor actually worsen the noise floor much at all even when put under a very intense processing load. "

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Over time, the scientific method has moved us closer to an understanding of objective reality.

 

I'm sure that is not what Frank was trying to say, which likely adds to its veracity.

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Really?  We did not have recorded music at all; then shellac; 45s; LPs; wire recorders; tape; optical...

 

 

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no, self-reasoning is not science

 

technological advancement rests on science; tho science also relies on technological advancement to extend its reach

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I've done both, so keep figuring.

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people say both

 

but theoretical vs. experimental is a different gradient than pure vs. applied