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Ah, I'm one of those scientists. 

 

The results were incontrovertible in the 1970s based on electrophoretic data; subsequently confirmed by ripping apart DNA.

 

You can say "ethnic groups" and be more accurate.

 

or make fun of different countries or regions...

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13 hours ago, firedog said:

Yes. Race is a fake concept that exists only in the minds of humans. No one can clearly define where one race ends and another begins. It is a human cultural concept, not a biological one.
We are all mixes of various genetic backgrounds. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is "pure" anything. 

 

Close, but not really...

 

Races are real and race means a sub-species.  This reality is not diminished because it is more difficult to find the boundary than between full species.

 

Scientists do not designate races (sub-species) in extant humans because the genetic diversity between individuals is so large (> 80% of the total) as compared with any sub-species one might designate.

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12 minutes ago, gmgraves said:

No matter how divide it, Most of humanity seems to accept the premise that race is a real, physical concept. Daily on the news you hear about "racial tensions" and the effect of race in America and how the "racial demographic" in Europe is changing due to the influx of black Africans and Middle Eastern peoples from Syria, Turkey and Iraq.   

 

That's true.  It is what the liberal arts profs. call "socially constructed."

 

But while race (subspecies) is a valid concept for animals and plants ("varieties") there is only a single race left in Homo sapiens.  The now extinct neanderthals were either a separate species or separate sub-species (besides gettin' it on with the Denisovians) and did get it on with modern humans (H. sapiens sapiens) hence the traces of their DNA in modern human popns.

 

But despite the "large numbers" and "many, many" who believe one thing or another, we don't do science by consensus.

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No, it was proven by electrophoretic data long before DNA was "read".

 

 

But DNA is a good analogy for the crazy digital audio meme here !!

 

you see, the noise is modulated is such an EXACT way as to change the digital data stream - it flips those bits, just like a virus infests DNA with its own genome!!

 

THAT is why the crazy pm's are TRUE!!

 

 

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George it is a crime to give false info to a police officer.  It may be a felony in some states.  You were very lucky.

 

 

Oregon has a statute that a police officer must immediately explain the reason for a traffic stop.  Widely violated by the city cops here.

 

usually, state cops will be better educated and better trained than a city cop or a sheriff's deputy; only an FBI agent will be required to have a law degree...

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