labjr Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I want to hear MQA demoed with an A/B comparison. Link to comment
Tintinabulum Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I want to hear MQA demoed with an A/B comparison. IMHO there's not a great deal between 192 and MQA listening to analogue outputs on an 818 (A/B). I suspect there's more to be heard through Meridians SE speakers but nobody will buy them out of idle interest. I've heard MQA demo's on SE speakers, generally very impressive but content dependent. Link to comment
labjr Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 IMHO there's not a great deal between 192 and MQA listening to analogue outputs on an 818 (A/B). I suspect there's more to be heard through Meridians SE speakers but nobody will buy them out of idle interest. I've heard MQA demo's on SE speakers, generally very impressive but content dependent. Yeah seems like MQA is being marketed with carefully made demos to make it shine. But no real comparisons. IMO, If it doesn't correct temporal information at least as good as DSD then what's the point? Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 As I remember it Mark Waldrep wrote in his AIX blog quite some time back that he had a email or phone conversation with Bob Stuart and had questioned him about MQA and sound quality. At that time Bob had responded that he wasn't making any claims of increased sound quality, only that the process was going to ease streaming/downloading of large HDA files due to the reduced size, how it was totally transparent, and would provide 16/44 compatible playback. He then promised Mark a full written Q/A interview like Chris is talking about at a later date. But then after the "I've Heard The Future" article and all the rest he has not availed himself for said interview though he promised it on a couple later occasions. Seems like his public story has changed over the last 18 months. ??? "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
snapback77 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am using voyage mpd and have not been able to see the blue light yet. Still hoping to hear. Maybe I should try mplayer on my ubuntu box Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am using voyage mpd and have not been able to see the blue light yet. Still hoping to hear. Maybe I should try mplayer on my ubuntu box As long as you aren't resampling the output Voyage MPD will output bit perfect MQA and illuminate the lights. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 He then promised Mark a full written Q/A interview like Chris is talking about at a later date. But then after the "I've Heard The Future" article and all the rest he has not availed himself for said interview though he promised it on a couple later occasions. Promised response to the Q/A has been received and some of the results have now been posted to Marks blog the last 2 days. Curious? Robert Stuart Responds: MQA and More! | Real HD-Audio Robert Stuart Responds…Again! | Real HD-Audio "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
labjr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder if Bob Stuart thinks Mark Waldrep is arrogant too. Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder if Bob Stuart thinks Mark Waldrep is arrogant too. I don't know if he finds Mark arrogant. I'm sure Bob is nervous cause Mark will tell the truth about what he hears from MQA when it becomes more available. He's not in the pocket of advertisers as some others in the audiophile media community. "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't know if he finds Mark arrogant. I'm sure Bob is nervous cause Mark will tell the truth about what he hears from MQA when it becomes more available. He's not in the pocket of advertisers as some others in the audiophile media community. I wonder what Cookie Marenco thinks of MQA. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder what Cookie Marenco thinks of MQA. Why? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Why? Why not? She's not shy about her opinions on other audio formats. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Why not? She's not shy about her opinions on other audio formats. I was looking for a response with reasoning, likely technical based on your knowledge, rather than why not. I think Donald Trump qualifies based on your response:~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was looking for a response with reasoning, likely technical based on your knowledge, rather than why not. I think Donald Trump qualifies based on your response:~) Cookie clearly knows good sound. Not everything has to be technical. Link to comment
YashN Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't know if he finds Mark arrogant. I'm sure Bob is nervous cause Mark will tell the truth about what he hears from MQA Except Mark doesn't hear very well, so nobody should care what he hears or not. Dedicated Line DSD/DXD | Audirvana+ | iFi iDSD Nano | SET Tube Amp | Totem Mites Surround: VLC | M-Audio FastTrack Pro | Mac Opt | Panasonic SA-HE100 | Logitech Z623 DIY: SET Tube Amp | Low-Noise Linear Regulated Power Supply | USB, Power, Speaker Cables | Speaker Stands | Acoustic Panels Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Except Mark doesn't hear very well, so nobody should care what he hears or not. Does he hear worse than typical for his age? Link to comment
YashN Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Does he hear worse than typical for his age? Probably as much or worse: the first isn't out of the ordinary, the second on the other hand... During the review of the Regen in his own studio where he invited two other listeners he trusts, the latter heard differences, but not Mark. Why would you listen to what he says about what he hears (or clearly cannot hear, in his own studio...)? Dedicated Line DSD/DXD | Audirvana+ | iFi iDSD Nano | SET Tube Amp | Totem Mites Surround: VLC | M-Audio FastTrack Pro | Mac Opt | Panasonic SA-HE100 | Logitech Z623 DIY: SET Tube Amp | Low-Noise Linear Regulated Power Supply | USB, Power, Speaker Cables | Speaker Stands | Acoustic Panels Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Probably as much or worse: the first isn't out of the ordinary, the second on the other hand... During the review of the Regen in his own studio where he invited two other listeners he trusts, the latter heard differences, but not Mark. Why would you listen to what he says about what he hears (or clearly cannot hear, in his own studio...)? Some would say he's not as easily bamboozled by marketing claims. He's not the only person not to hear a difference from the Regen. Also bear in mind that he was using a DAC that shouldn't be affected by such devices. Link to comment
YashN Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some would say he's not as easily bamboozled by marketing claims. He's not the only person not to hear a difference from the Regen. Also bear in mind that he was using a DAC that shouldn't be affected by such devices. Some people not hearing a difference with the Regen because their equipment doesn't benefit is a completely different thing from 3 people hearing the same equipment and only 1 conspicuously not hearing anything. I think you're not too aware of his biases. He likes to market his own recordings. Dedicated Line DSD/DXD | Audirvana+ | iFi iDSD Nano | SET Tube Amp | Totem Mites Surround: VLC | M-Audio FastTrack Pro | Mac Opt | Panasonic SA-HE100 | Logitech Z623 DIY: SET Tube Amp | Low-Noise Linear Regulated Power Supply | USB, Power, Speaker Cables | Speaker Stands | Acoustic Panels Link to comment
mansr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some people not hearing a difference with the Regen because their equipment doesn't benefit is a completely different thing from 3 people hearing the same equipment and only 1 conspicuously not hearing anything. That argument goes both ways. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Cookie clearly knows good sound. Not everything has to be technical. No worries no arguments here. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
labjr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't know if he finds Mark arrogant. I'm sure Bob is nervous cause Mark will tell the truth about what he hears from MQA when it becomes more available. He's not in the pocket of advertisers as some others in the audiophile media community. You make it seem they're running for political office. However, I don't think Bob Stuart is too nervous. Link to comment
MikeJazz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Promised response to the Q/A has been received and some of the results have now been posted to Marks blog the last 2 days. Curious?Robert Stuart Responds: MQA and More! | Real HD-Audio Robert Stuart Responds…Again! | Real HD-Audio Just arrived now to these texts and could not agree more on the closing remarks: " The problem we have is the lack of truly great sounding recordings. The production chain is broken. How can ever expect to deliver better fidelity with software tweaks, expensive cables, and exotic hardware when the content were playing doesn’t measure up?" This is why I prefer a mp3 of a good recording that a HD audiophile file of a lesser recording. But it is refreshing to see new efforts in the right direction, like these folks: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/members/mikejazz/ funded this campain: http://igg.me/at/geekpulseaudio/x/5216671 Link to comment
labjr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I listen to mostly Classic Rock. I don't expect to hear the mic feed. But I want to hear what's on the analog tape. And 16/44 doesn't cut it for me. I don't care what Mark Waldrep thinks. I'm not buying his recordings because of the way he produces them. I'm buying stuff that I want to hear. I can say the same about Bob Stuart. MQA might be great but if I can't find classic rock/ pop remastered using the MQA process, I won't buy it. I'm talking about going all the way back to the analog tape to do the transfer using the MQA process and not old digital masters that have been corrected. That to me sounds like sales BS. Come on, how can something be authenticated from an old digital master? DSD seems to be more accurate with transients and temporal information, but there's something in the treble that's not quite right. Doubtful if any music I listen to will ever get DSD128 or DSD256 treatment. Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Except Mark doesn't hear very well, so nobody should care what he hears or not. So I take it you believe you have superior hearing? I then suggest you open a like studio and start recording HDA and show him-us how it'd done with your superior success in the audiophile recordings market. Talk is cheap. "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
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