Cornan Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I am trying firmware beta 4.0.6 now. Is it just me or does it sound even cleaner than 4.0.4? The bass has tightened up a notch and everything sounds more open BUT the highs are now more strident than before and there is some treble sibilance that wasn't there with 4.0.4. I think I prefer 4.0.4 overall. I actually prefer 4.0.6 over 4.0.4. Very small but preferable differences sound wise (agree to a tad clearer and more open...but not more stribent hights on my setup). Most important for me is that it is more stabile and respond quicker when using BubbleDS Next>Tidal. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Computer Audiophile mobile app 🎛️ Audio System Link to comment
atletico Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I am trying firmware beta 4.0.6 now. Is it just me or does it sound even cleaner than 4.0.4? The bass has tightened up a notch and everything sounds more open BUT the highs are now more strident than before and there is some treble sibilance that wasn't there with 4.0.4. I think I prefer 4.0.4 overall. Same experience here... preferred the beta 4.0.4 version. Auralic Aries G2 - Kii Control - Kii Three active speakers - OPPO BDP 95 - Clearaudio Concept turtable / AT-33 PTG II pu /Clearaudio Maestro Wood pu - Rega Fono MC riaa / Musical Surrondings riaa Head-fi: Beyerdynamic DT 1770 Pro - Shure SE846w/Silver Dragon - Chord Mojo Link to comment
markwb Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Has anyone downloaded .6 with a wired connection yet? Scared to! Link to comment
MNG Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Has anyone downloaded .6 with a wired connection yet? Scared to! Yes, it worked fine for me. Link to comment
wanta911 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I am trying firmware beta 4.0.6 now. Is it just me or does it sound even cleaner than 4.0.4? The bass has tightened up a notch and everything sounds more open BUT the highs are now more strident than before and there is some treble sibilance that wasn't there with 4.0.4. I think I prefer 4.0.4 overall. Aaah....the potential pitfalls of the quest to "improve" the SQ of a playback system. Great recordings sound even better and lesser recordings sound worse. 4.0.6 sounds good to me on my setup but I hope they don't go too much further with getting a cleaner sound. I can imagine that I might not be as impressed if I still owned a couple of previous DACS that exhibited a certain amount of digital glare compared to what I have now. The endless pursuit of cleaner sound is a double edged sword, it's great if your music library consists mainly of audiophile jazz recordings etc. but if you're a big fan of say....70's & 80's rock & popular music then there is definitely a case for a bit of "colour" being a good thing, particularly with some of that typical 80's edgy & thin mastering. Assuming that most people's music collections would be quite varied, I think there is a good case for getting to a point of "good enough". Maybe there is a case for being able to choose your software version based on your setup and library? Link to comment
mikey8811 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Maybe there is a case for being able to choose your software version based on your setup and library? Yes, that would be akin to a filter setting I suppose. Or DSP. The much touted but never present HQ Player type upsampling too. Link to comment
2string1 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Aaah....the potential pitfalls of the quest to "improve" the SQ of a playback system. Great recordings sound even better and lesser recordings sound worse. 4.0.6 sounds good to me on my setup but I hope they don't go too much further with getting a cleaner sound. I can imagine that I might not be as impressed if I still owned a couple of previous DACS that exhibited a certain amount of digital glare compared to what I have now. The endless pursuit of cleaner sound is a double edged sword, it's great if your music library consists mainly of audiophile jazz recordings etc. but if you're a big fan of say....70's & 80's rock & popular music then there is definitely a case for a bit of "colour" being a good thing, particularly with some of that typical 80's edgy & thin mastering. Assuming that most people's music collections would be quite varied, I think there is a good case for getting to a point of "good enough". Maybe there is a case for being able to choose your software version based on your setup and library? I agree with all of this... Link to comment
erikd Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hey:-) Got a mail from Auralic europe about my auralic not working with beta firmware. He sayd he should send ups label so i can ship it for factory reset but nothing happens. Tryed to send mail yesterday, anyone experience the same?? Miss my Aries, sounded exellent with new firmware:-) Link to comment
Doak Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yes, that would be akin to a filter setting I suppose. Or DSP. The much touted but never present HQ Player type upsampling too. Hard to imagine that Auralic "touted HQP type upsampling." Can you provide a pointer to this statement? The Aries is great and getting even better at what it was designed to do, though it purposely lacks the processing power required to do the heavy lifting required to do serious upsampling. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
MNG Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hey:-) Got a mail from Auralic europe about my auralic not working with beta firmware. He sayd he should send ups label so i can ship it for factory reset but nothing happens. Tryed to send mail yesterday, anyone experience the same?? Miss my Aries, sounded exellent with new firmware:-) Yes, they will send you an email to print out the shipping documents and arrange a collection. I have asked twice how long I am going to be without my unit. The first request was ignored, the second was answered and all they've told me is that it takes them a couple of hours to fix the unit, so I've no idea what to expect. Quite poor really given that their update bricked the unit. I'm surprised that people seem so laid back about it really. Link to comment
erikd Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thank you for answer. I understand, have to be patient! Will call Norwegian importer tomorrow. Yes, they will send you an email to print out the shipping documents and arrange a collection. I have asked twice how long I am going to be without my unit. The first request was ignored, the second was answered and all they've told me is that it takes them a couple of hours to fix the unit, so I've no idea what to expect. Quite poor really given that their update bricked the unit. I'm surprised that people seem so laid back about it really. Link to comment
mikey8811 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Can't imagine that Auralic "touted HQP type upsampling." Can you provide a pointer to this statement? The Aries is great and getting even better at what it was designed to do, though it purposely lacks the processing power required to do the heavy lifting required to do serious upsampling. That was just a tongue in cheek comment on my part. Auralic themselves have alluded to upsampling and DSP functions being added in initial emails to me and I presume to others as I read on this board. As recent as a month ago, they said in an email that they were working on enabling HQ Player NAA with Jussi although I did email Jussi about this and never received a reply. It was just wishful thinking on my part since you commented that it was the HQ Player upsampling that was the game changer in your comparison against the microRendu. Link to comment
pl_svn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yes, they will send you an email to print out the shipping documents and arrange a collection. I have asked twice how long I am going to be without my unit. The first request was ignored, the second was answered and all they've told me is that it takes them a couple of hours to fix the unit, so I've no idea what to expect. Quite poor really given that their update bricked the unit. I'm surprised that people seem so laid back about it really. shipped mine on Monday 18 and according to UPS tracking it's been *finally* delivered to Auralic this morning we'll see how long it will take to be back laid back? seriously considering selling my Aries once it comes back: after one week with just my *well tempered* Mac mini I'm seriously questioning if it was worth the investment :-/ I might probably get the same SQ by just spending time killing all unnecessary processes on the Mac I'm more and more convinced a powerful machine doing some very light work sounds at least on par (if not better) than a "just powerful enough" one Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > Metrum Acoustics Forte power amplifier (or First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall IV headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
erikd Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Will test out my macbook retina with audiravana and compare self! God damned , hate to wait so long! Did you send to China?? shipped mine on Monday 18 and according to UPS tracking it's been *finally* delivered to Auralic this morningwe'll see how long it will take to be back laid back? seriously considering selling my Aries once it comes back: after one week with just my *well tempered* Mac mini I'm seriously questioning if it was worth the investment :-/ I might probably get the same SQ by just spending time killing all unnecessary processes on the Mac I'm more and more convinced a powerful machine doing some very light work sounds at least on par (if not better) than a "just powerful enough" one Link to comment
Doak Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 That was just a tongue in cheek comment on my part. Auralic themselves have alluded to upsampling and DSP functions being added in initial emails to me and I presume to others as I read on this board. As recent as a month ago, they said in an email that they were working on enabling HQ Player NAA with Jussi although I did email Jussi about this and never received a reply. It was just wishful thinking on my part since you commented that it was the HQ Player upsampling that was the game changer in your comparison against the microRendu. Listening to Aries with newest firmware now for first time. Sounding very, very good. FYI: Think I've "run the course" on HQPlayer/Roon/Fidelizer Pro/dual computer setup/optical network iso, etc... I've found myself back to "dicking with computers/network" way too much (again) and spending less time relaxing and listening to music. This is PRECISELY the reason I acquired the Aries more than a year ago. With the way my system is sounding using the Aries, and the problems I've had with the (overly) complicated alternative it looks like I'm heading back to the Auralic fold. EVERY time I plug the Aries back into the system it comes up playing music IMMEDIATELY. The "alternative system" is a constant bother. A dozen things must be just right to get music out of it. Then I've suffered lots of drop-out even failure to play even when everything appears to be "just right." This kind of frustration and (IMO) foolishness is not what this wonderful avocation is all about - not for me anyway. I am - first and foremost - a music lover. Some people really do enjoy messing with computer stuff - not my thing,, well only if I'm getting paid well to do it. ;-) Doak's Audio System Link to comment
MNG Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I've had a couple of things delivered (W4S RUR, Sbooster Ultra power supply and a power cable) which I was hoping would improve the SQ of the Aries and now I cannot test them effectively, which is why I am a bit frustrated by it all. The timing couldn't have been worse for me. I have been considering the Microrendu as a possibility. Interesting post from Doak though to remind me of my initial objectives! Link to comment
pl_svn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Will test out my macbook retina with audiravana and compare self! God damned , hate to wait so long! Did you send to China?? yes: back to the factory in Bejing mind, though, that I'm sure the Aries as it comes out of the box outperforms a "shared general use" computer it's a dedicated and well tempered one it doesn't (if not by a small margin that can be overcome ) Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > Metrum Acoustics Forte power amplifier (or First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall IV headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
erikd Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Have the Sbooster ultra power with filter and its a BIG update!! Plays bigger I've had a couple of things delivered (W4S RUR, Sbooster Ultra power supply and a power cable) which I was hoping would improve the SQ of the Aries and now I cannot test them effectively, which is why I am a bit frustrated by it all. The timing couldn't have been worse for me. I have been considering the Microrendu as a possibility. Interesting post from Doak though to remind me of my initial objectives! Link to comment
MNG Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Have the Sbooster ultra power with filter and its a BIG update!! Plays bigger On the one hand, that is good to know as I had hoped it would. On the other, it is frustrating! I heard the new firmware briefly before the unit fried and I definitely thought I heard an improvement, and that was before I even knew there had been any changes. It seemed quite distinct. Link to comment
MNG Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I've received an email saying that my Aries has been fixed and shipped back to me. I shipped it to Auralic on 20th so that's just a week turnaround. I may not be without it for as long as I feared, which is good news. I suppose that total timescales will be dependent upon UPS and location. Link to comment
pl_svn Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 mine too has been shipped back this morning Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > Metrum Acoustics Forte power amplifier (or First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall IV headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
sebassie Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Mine has been repaired and is on it's way back. However there seem to be some customs problems in Hongkong. Expected turnaround 2 weeks. Link to comment
pl_svn Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Mine has been repaired and is on it's way back. However there seem to be some customs problems in Hongkong. Expected turnaround 3 weeks. seen those alerts, on the way to China, here in Milan, then in Poland, Hong Kong and once more in Bejing before final delivery :-/ though it actually took one week total to be delivered nonetheless think it's like when you connect a (new) device to a Windows computer: you're immediately warned about everything being wrong then... the system catches up Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > Metrum Acoustics Forte power amplifier (or First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall IV headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
pedroromao Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Mine seems FAST! Sent it this monday mid afternoon from Lisbon and this morning it was already in Beijing! Link to comment
pl_svn Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 you know we all hate you, right? Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > Metrum Acoustics Forte power amplifier (or First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall IV headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
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