sandyk Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Hi Downrange I have been purchasing from HD Tracks for several years now from Australia, using Paypal.I am still receiving regular updated from them via email, and my email address ends in .au They would have to be well aware of these kinds of things. Perhaps the R.I.A.A. which seems to think that it is an arm of the U.S.A. government is exerting pressure on HD Tracks ? Regards Alex How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
ron spencer Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 What proof is it banned anyway? Just use paypal for crying out loud and don't give HDTRACKS your address....sigh. Link to comment
Zakus Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Agree no-one has actually said that they tried to download via Paypal and were blocked although the implication is that they are. Can someone confirm they have tried and been blocked. I would try but tellingly haven't seen something new I want for sometime. Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 You you will find that the UK, and Australia, for example, takes copyright just as seriously as the US. After all, the UK invented it. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 There are threads on other audio forums also discussing that some or all of HDTracks is blocked outside USA. The blocking is done by looking at IP addresses. Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
gcorley Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I know a few (very few) specific albums are blocked for sale outside the USA, but I have yet to have a problem purchasing any of the other albums with PayPal. My last purchase was about 10 days ago ... Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Your payment method won't make a difference if they are using IP addresses. We can now start another barmy 'does it make a difference?' thread Link to comment
gcorley Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yeah, I know it depends on your IP address, but there was a similar thread a few months ago that mistakenly made the same claim - turned out it was only for a few specific albums. Just wanted someone to clarify that it is now impossible to buy any album without hiding your IP ... Link to comment
manisandher Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I've downloaded a number of hirez albums from HDTracks in the past and paid by PayPal at checkout - no issues whatsoever. But I've just tried now and when I press the PayPal button at checkout, I get a 'website cannot be found' message on my browser. So it seems to be true, for my UK IP address at least. It's not a big deal for me though as I decided to boycott HDTracks a while ago once the 'upsampled' fiasco came to light. HTH. Mani. Main: SOtM sMS-200 -> Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horns + 2x Rotel RB-1590 amps -> 4 subs Home Office: SOtM sMS-200 -> MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers Vinyl: Technics SP10 / London (Decca) Reference -> Trafomatic Luna -> RME ADI-2 Pro Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm in the UK. I was going to try it myself, just to see if it was true, and now I don't have to. It might have worked, and as I don't particularly want anything at the moment, I would have wasted my money. Like you, I would not touch HD Tracks anyway. Not even with a disinfected bargepole. Noticeable that the guy who owns it does not answer any of these 'upsampling' questions. Cowboys usually don't answer questions. It's a sure sign of their 'cowboyness'. Link to comment
Richard Dale Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Mark Powell: Your payment method won't make a difference if they are using IP addresses. I feel the record companies are doing this for our own good. It is well known that music downloaded to an American IP address has a forceful muscular sound, that the typical IP address from a UK ISP just can't match. I personally use a Spanish IP address and enjoy the sweet musical sound of downloads that I've obtained with it. Sadly, I can't download anything much here in Spain. System (i): Stack Audio Link > Denafrips Iris 12th/Ares 12th-1; Gyrodec/SME V/Hana SL/EAT E-Glo Petit/Magnum Dynalab FT101A) > PrimaLuna Evo 100 amp > Klipsch RP-600M/REL T5x subs System (ii): Allo USB Signature > Bel Canto uLink+AQVOX psu > Chord Hugo > APPJ EL34 > Tandy LX5/REL Tzero v3 subs System (iii) KEF LS50W/KEF R400b subs System (iv) Technics 1210GR > Leak 230 > Tannoy Cheviot Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks Richard... You've cheered my day up! Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Biggest laugh all day. Link to comment
MetalNuts Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thank you very much and I won't have to pay higher price for non-genuine HR files. Thank you! MetalNuts Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 with what information have you deduced that? No electron left behind. Link to comment
firedog Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Used Paypal. Not in North America. So they aren't tracking IPs Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
avi Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It appears the geographic limitation is related to certain albums, artists or labels if your IP is detected as outside certain territories. For example using a UK IP and searching within HD Tracks website on the artist "Stevie Wonder" indicates there are no albums available. Using a US IP and performing the same search brings up the Innervisions 96/24 album. This is before any attempt to purchase is made. If you link to HDtracks via a search engine for the above title it will show up using a UK IP. However if you attempt to add to basket the following message appears - "Based on your territory as determined by your IP address, we are unable to sell you this album due to restrictions imposed on us by the record label. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for shopping at HDtracks!" It still appears possible to purchase some titles using paypal. Link to comment
ron spencer Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Not a chance that is true...just tried Stevie Wonder...no problems. If you have entered a profile into hdtracks with address, etc then login, then I can see this happening, but why would you do this anyway? Still clear with paypal from my end. Link to comment
firedog Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm downloading from Israel, which I'm sure they have no license agreements for and I never get any response like the one you did in your search. For any item. Innervisions comes right up for me. Did you sign up with a UK address in your account? Make another account with a US address. The address doesn't matter, as you never ship anything to yourself. Then just pay with PayPal. Or use a proxy server like UltraSurf to browse there. They can't see your real IP if you do. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It it one of those phony 'hi-res' pictures like the files that Chesky and his crowd of swindlers fob people off with? Pretending he didn't know? People here use Audacity and the like, so could he. Link to comment
PeterSt Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The picture just needs some upsampling. Try it. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
davidovada Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 At the risk of sounding like a paid shill for qobuz, I and a number of others here at CA swear by qobuz.com. They offer an amazing selection of music (including flac, aiff, true hi-res studio masters, 5.1 and even a flac streaming service with unlimited downloads). They have good sales all the time. True, the website is only in French, but come on. Use the automatic version of Google translate. I live in Italy and can purchase freely. They also are very tuned into the geek side with a newsletter devoted to equipment. I'm not sure if you can purchase from outside the EU but they accept paypal and everyone has a French address (wink wink). iMac - iTunes(AIFF) - Squeeze 7.9- QOBUZ flac streamer - Vodafone Revolution Router - Transporter - Pathos Classic One MkIII - JM/Focal Daline 3 - dhLabs & Xindak xlr cables - Mapleshade header and footers - AppleTV3 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Or do I need some new glasses? No electron left behind. Link to comment
uwe061 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 @ davidovada: I am very impressed - nice offers and nice site! Best regards, Uwe Link to comment
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