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    Beethoven Symphonies & Ouvertures Heard Like Never Before

     

     

        

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    Between December 2005 and December 2007 Bert van der Wolf used a prototype dCS analog to digital converter to capture Jos van Immerseel’s orchestra Anima Eterna Brugge, playing the Beethoven Symphonies and Ouvertures, in DXD (24 bit / 352.8 kHz) before there was even a name for Digital eXtreme Definition (DXD). Now, sixteen years after releasing this masterpiece on six stereo CDs, it’s available in full immersive high resolution, exactly as it was recorded, mixed, and mastered. According to van der Wolf, “To have them released now as Immersive High Res has been a 16 year dream of mine!”

     

    Bert van der Wolf’s enthusiasm for this release is contagious. “The colors, textures and fantastic historical insight of this ensemble is simply breathtaking to me.” Said van der Wolf in our email exchange this week. Bert even suggested that I likely heard a 5.1 mix of this recording when I visited his studio in 2011. This recording of the Beethoven Symphonies and Ouvertures is one of those career defining works that Bert proudly demonstrates, and rightly so. When I saw the headline TRUE VINTAGE GEMS FROM THE PAST, I was intrigued. When I saw all six albums were available in Auro 3D and Discrete Immersive DXD, I absolutely had to download them without delay. 

     

    Before I dig into the specifics, here is another quote from Bert that captures his excitement, the moment, and what this release means to him and music lovers, perfectly. 

     

    “A truly inspiring time travel during the re-mastering process of these legendary performances!" These recordings were one of the first made in DXD after I adopted this format in 2005 (dCS prototype ADC's), still revolutionary in 2006 and most likely one of the first recordings fully processed in 352,8kS/s/24bit! I decided to have another go on the mix for the master files, now 16 years later with the progressive insight about and acquired tools over the years for this stunning high resolution. It was a pleasure to find the hidden gems within these tracks.

     

    Bert van der Wolf-Oude Avenhuis 2023

     

     

    I’ve never been more grateful for my unlimited 1 Gbps up/down fiber internet connection that I was last week. The six Beethoven immersive DXD albums are roughly 240 GB! Sure, Bert could’ve released these as 24/96 files or some multiple of 44.1, to save storage space and shorten the download time, but then we wouldn’t have the unadulterated DXD version as it was recorded. Plus, spending a little time upfront to download the albums, has lead to endless hours of sonic bliss on the backend.  

     


    A small detour and note about perspective. 

     

    I’m not a big classical music fan by any stretch of the imagination. There are some pieces of music that I really like, but I couldn’t name them if my life depended on it. I approach this write-up from the perspective of someone who has a new love of classical music because of what immersive reproduction does for the genre. It puts the listener in the concert hall! In addition, I spent Saturday evening at Orchestra Hall here in Minneapolis, watching Home Alone wile the Minnesota Orchestra played the John Williams score. It was a marvelous time, and gave me a nice baseline with which to evaluate the immersive Beethoven experience. 

     


    On with the show. 

     

    Prior to clicking play on one of these 5.1.4 ten channel albums, I Googled “5 Minutes That Will Make You Love Beethoven.” The New York Times “5 Minute” series offers a great crash course in what other people love about an artists, composers, or styles of music. I was unsure if there was a Beethoven article, but I searched with my fingers crossed. I was in luck. I found several Beethoven recommendations in the article (link). Among them Times’ writer David Allen’s pick, the “Coriolan” Overture.

     

    Looking through the six DXD albums, I noticed track five on Volume 2 titled “Overture in c minor op.62 Coriolan.” This must be what he’s talking about, I said to myself. I queued it up in JRiver Media Center, adjusted the volume on my Merging Anibus, and let it rip. 

     

    AEBvol2_2048x.png.webpHoly $#!+! I immediately felt like the Maxell guy from the ad campaign in the 1980s. I could feel the music, just like I had at Orchestra Hall a couple nights prior. I could hear the texture of the strings, the power of the horns, and the emotions oozing out of the players, as if this was happening right in my listening room. Bert van der Wolf’s new immersive mix is a thing of absolute beauty. He uses all the surround and height channels to give Anima Eterna Brugge a large presence and to place the listener right in the best seat in Concertgebouw Brugge in November 2006. 

     

    Coriolanus ebbs and flows into the next piece, Overture in f minor op.84 Egmont. Another stunningly beautiful piece of music, performed superbly, recorded impeccably, and reproduced the best way I know how. To say this listening experience is otherworldly, is an understatement. It’s also the type of experience that turns people such as myself into classical music lovers. Listening to Egmont slowly build, crash magically, and continue on a rollercoaster, with the decibel meter on my watch indicating peaks over 90 dB, is what makes this hobby so wonderful. I’m listening to this exact piece now as I type, and I have chills. Everyone should have this experience. I feel like I’m sitting in front of the orchestra, in the concert hall! Nothing is missing from this immersive presentation. It has texture, tone, and enough dynamic range to scare the neighbors. What more could a music lover want. 

     

    bert.jpgI’ve been a fan of Bert’s work since first meeting him in 2011. I own several of his recordings, offered for purchase and download through the Spirit of Turtle website. They are all great, but this one stands on its own as the pièce de résistance. The entire six album discrete immersive DXD collection of the Beethoven Symphonies and Ouvertures is so good that I’ve run out of superlatives, and it makes me wonder what else Bert has in his vault, because I want more of what he’s producing. 

     

    I’m willing to bet Bert had a smirk on his enthusiastic face as we exchanged emails last week. The kind of smirk that signals one knows what the other person is about to experience. Bert knew this would knock my audio socks off and it certainly did. 

     

    Those with immersive audio systems are encouraged to purchase and download immediately from The Spirit of Turtle website. Immense enjoyment will follow. 

     

     

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    Sounds awesome but I can’t play those files.

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    1 minute ago, Apollo said:

    I bought the stereo DXD version at the Spirit of Turtle website today

    Lovely! 

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    Wow, this sounds like an experience I would love. Time to plan Minneapolis Trip #2! 🤓 I listened to the 2ch version on Qobuz and it is a fine recording indeed. 

     

    BTW - just for giggles, take a look at one of the reviews of this Immerseel cycle by David Hurwitz of Classics Today. Review. Ouch! I wonder how he really felt. That said, I find myself disagreeing with David on many recordings, especially historically-informed recordings, to which he seems particularly allergic. I myself love several of Immerseel/Anima Eterna Brugge recordings, including the Schubert/Berwald Octet and Carmina Burana, to name only a couple.

     

    Finally, most music reviews tend to discount the audiophile qualities of a recording. And this is an area where Bert's release of this cycle particularly excels, based on your experience. This is probably a topic all in itself - to what extent do audiophiles favor sound quality over strict musicality in determining favorite recordings. I know for me, sound quality is an important factor, and I make no bones about it.

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    1 hour ago, austinpop said:

    Wow, this sounds like an experience I would love. Time to plan Minneapolis Trip #2! 🤓 I listened to the 2ch version on Qobuz and it is a fine recording indeed. 

     

    BTW - just for giggles, take a look at one of the reviews of this Immerseel cycle by David Hurwitz of Classics Today. Review. Ouch! I wonder how he really felt. That said, I find myself disagreeing with David on many recordings, especially historically-informed recordings, to which he seems particularly allergic. I myself love several of Immerseel/Anima Eterna Brugge recordings, including the Schubert/Berwald Octet and Carmina Burana, to name only a couple.

     

    Finally, most music reviews tend to discount the audiophile qualities of a recording. And this is an area where Bert's release of this cycle particularly excels, based on your experience. This is probably a topic all in itself - to what extent do audiophiles favor sound quality over strict musicality in determining favorite recordings. I know for me, sound quality is an important factor, and I make no bones about it.

    WOW! One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. The very thing that gives me chills is called a “CD from hell.” Some of us like sashimi while others want a well done steak. 
     

    Having no frame of historical reference for this recording was nice because I had no baggage. I had no clue what it’s “supposed” to sound like or how it’s “supposed” to be played. I’m sure connoisseurs have a different take, but perhaps the connoisseurs’ versions are an acquired taste that would turn me off. Who knows. 
     

    I do know that I immediately went for these recordings again this morning. I had to keep listening. I just love them. 

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    14 hours ago, Apollo said:

    I bought the stereo DXD version at the Spirit of Turtle website today

    Can you post the link? I'm not finding it.

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    14 hours ago, austinpop said:

    Wow, this sounds like an experience I would love. Time to plan Minneapolis Trip #2! 🤓 I listened to the 2ch version on Qobuz and it is a fine recording indeed. 

     

    BTW - just for giggles, take a look at one of the reviews of this Immerseel cycle by David Hurwitz of Classics Today. Review. Ouch! I wonder how he really felt. That said, I find myself disagreeing with David on many recordings, especially historically-informed recordings, to which he seems particularly allergic. I myself love several of Immerseel/Anima Eterna Brugge recordings, including the Schubert/Berwald Octet and Carmina Burana, to name only a couple.

     

    Finally, most music reviews tend to discount the audiophile qualities of a recording. And this is an area where Bert's release of this cycle particularly excels, based on your experience. This is probably a topic all in itself - to what extent do audiophiles favor sound quality over strict musicality in determining favorite recordings. I know for me, sound quality is an important factor, and I make no bones about it.

    The All Music reviewer liked it....and commented on the fine sound.

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    I am interested in purchasing the complete Auro-3D set... Am I missing the option for a complete package price or must each volume be purchased individually?

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    1 hour ago, 3dsoundshop said:

    I am interested in purchasing the complete Auro-3D set... Am I missing the option for a complete package price or must each volume be purchased individually?

     

    When you put  1 album in your shopping basket, at the bottom right there is an 'Frequezntly bought Together' area, where a bundle of albums is shown to be bought together.  You can unmark the albums you don't want to purchase.

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    8 hours ago, Apollo said:

     

    When you put  1 album in your shopping basket, at the bottom right there is an 'Frequezntly bought Together' area, where a bundle of albums is shown to be bought together.  You can unmark the albums you don't want to purchase.

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    Thanks... Ordering now!

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    On 12/1/2023 at 2:28 AM, Kalpesh said:

    https://www.louisvillecardinal.com/2011/02/music-and-intelligence/#post/0

     

    to be taken with a grain of salt : I'm a huge Beethoven fan, could live with only the piano sonatas and quatuors to listen to, while I don't even know what a SAT score is

     

    Yeah, more than a grain. The guy supposes that people who listen to classical music are more hardworking and ambitious, as well as more intelligent. 🙄

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    1 hour ago, Jud said:

     

    Yeah, more than a grain. The guy supposes that people who listen to classical music are more hardworking and ambitious, as well as more intelligent. 🙄

     

    But... I am  ;-)

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    5 hours ago, Jud said:

     

    Yeah, more than a grain. The guy supposes that people who listen to classical music are more hardworking and ambitious, as well as more intelligent. 🙄

    Plus he associates jazz and low SAT scores while other "findings" associate jazz, when non vocal, with high IQ

    reminds me of adolescence when asking someone what he or she was listening to was a assessment criteria of the worth of involvement 

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    37 minutes ago, Kalpesh said:

    Plus he associates jazz and low SAT scores while other "findings" associate jazz, when non vocal, with high IQ

    reminds me of adolescence when asking someone what he or she was listening to was a assessment criteria of the worth of involvement 


    It was 2011 in Kentucky and Obama was president, so an article associating listening to Black musicians with laziness and low intelligence sadly does not shock me.

     

    Edit: BTW, apologies for the OT; if you feel it ought to be removed, please do so.

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    This is really "junk science". 

    Here's one example: 

    "However, when Hargreaves and North looked closer, they found that some of these categories overlapped – many fans of classical music were also fans of heavy metal.

    “We think, what we think the answer is, that both types of music…have something of the spiritual about them – they’re very dramatic,” said North and Hargreaves in their book, “The Social and Applied Psychology of Music."

    In other words, 'our study really doesn't show anything, b/c it is too simplistic to reflect a somewhat more complex reality. So when it is shown not to make sense, we make up explanations that fit our original mistaken conclusions.'

     

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    image.thumb.png.5310124dc26724bcb0e042131a2e8cba.png

     

     

    I bought the DXD 356,4kHz (Stereo) version of this album.

     

    Analyzing it in MusicScope, it looks to me like a DSD128 recording.  Or am I looking at it the wrong way?

     

    Dirk

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    34 minutes ago, Apollo said:

    image.thumb.png.5310124dc26724bcb0e042131a2e8cba.png

     

     

    I bought the DXD 356,4kHz (Stereo) version of this album.

     

    Analyzing it in MusicScope, it looks to me like a DSD128 recording.  Or am I looking at it the wrong way?

     

    Dirk

     

    According to Bert it was a DXD recording with a prototype dCS A to D converter. I wish I had MusicScope, I could put the 10 channel version in there. 

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    I hadn't realised that Immerseel had recorded a new Beethoven set.

    From the photo it looks like minimal miking was used which to me matters more than the format.

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    Thank you for the article, it is a wonderful recording.

     

    I seldom run into well-known classical music recordings performed with period instruments and techniques. The lack of vibrato in the strings section takes a bit to get used to; however, it is not a deal breaker.

     

    I truly enjoyed listening to these pieces.

     

    Thanks again,

     

    Raul C

     

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