HIFI Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I just purchased the latest edition of a Mac mini to replace my old Mac mini that went South on me. I’ve contacted my tech and ask them for a driver. They sent me a link to download a driver for the old model stereo192. When I go to load the driver it says it’s not compatible with my Mac mini. what am I doing wrong? I have been using this DAV and old Mac mini for about NINE years. is it an issue where it’s just an old driver and won’t work with new hardware and newer operating system? I’m asking here because Mytek has not been very responsive for me. thank you in advance for your help My System : TWO SPEAKERS AND A CHAIR Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, HIFI said: I’ve contacted my tech and ask them for a driver. You should clearly specify Mytek the new Mac Mini is an M1 one … it’s possible the old driver is not compatible with Mac M1 Stefano My audio system Link to comment
botrytis Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Also, do not forget, any Apple driver, etc. has to be QA/QC'd by Apple itself. That can cause delays. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
church_mouse Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I have the original Mytek Manhattan - Apple driver support for it ended some years ago. I believe this also applies to the 192. See below, taken from their website. My experience of Mytek support has not been good and they are a company I would not buy from again. "FireWire connection in Stereo192-DSD DAC, Manhattan DAC (the first version) and 8x192 FireWire DIO card does not work with newest Apple computers (from 2018 and higher). *The Stereo192-DSD DAC and the Manhattan DAC (the first version) USB2 driver is NOT compatible with El Capitan/Sierra/High Sierra/Mojave." David MacMini, Mytek Manhattan I DAC, Avantone The Abbey Monitors, Roon Link to comment
firedog Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I would just use USB. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, firedog said: I would just use USB. I suppose it doesn’t exist on that dac …. Stefano My audio system Link to comment
firedog Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, firedog said: I would just use USB. 15 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said: I suppose it doesn’t exist on that dac …. It does. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, firedog said: It does. Ah, sorry. I see that there also aren't drivers for USB with the newer Apple OS's. Well, a Windows laptop or a Linux based streamer might be the only solution. Or can you run Windows or Linux as a 2nd OS on your MAC - virtual or otherwise? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
botrytis Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Not if it is an M1 or M2 Mac. As the Windows for ARM is not fully featured and can't run all the software. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
firedog Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, botrytis said: Not if it is an M1 or M2 Mac. As the Windows for ARM is not fully featured and can't run all the software. What about running Linux on it? Linux has universally accepted USB drivers. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
botrytis Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, firedog said: What about running Linux on it? Linux has universally accepted USB drivers. Well, the weird BIOS ships that Apple uses (one is a 9-bit chip and I can't remember the other like 11-bit), might make it hard to get Linux running on an M1/M2 platform. Asahi linux is the only one currently out there that works on Mac Mini's. Not sure if it will work with the music software though. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Right now there is no useful Linux that can be run on a new Apple Silicon mac unless you just want to point at it and show everyone it's running linux. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Miska Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I'm using the old Stereo192-DSD DAC still on my Intel based iMac (2019). Was doing that just today under macOS Ventura. Using Apple's Thunderbolt-to-Firewire adapter. But it works also with a PC based NAA (under Linux) over Firewire if one wants to use HQPlayer on macOS. Or of course just running HQPlayer Embedded/Desktop locally. Up to DSD128 (over Firewire). Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
HIFI Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Thank you all for jumping in to help. I don’t know enough about computers to digest all your suggestions. I have made so many come bracts to two different ppl at Mytek. I wish they would respond and tell me they can’t help or send me a solution. It’s really a disappointment that the responses I did get were a bunch of questions but when it came down to the non compatible driver they sent me all communications have stopped. I am not much help to myself due to my lack of computer experience. I’m not only good if it’s “plug and play”. maybe it’s time to purchase a new dac and move on. The thought is disappointing but it’s may have no choice. while I don’t understand many of the above replies it does sound like my old stereo192 Mytek is not compatible with my new Mac mini. My old Mac mini and stereo192 worked well together using USB connection. Am I at least correct if I just want simple plug and play? kind regards My System : TWO SPEAKERS AND A CHAIR Link to comment
Miska Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, HIFI said: while I don’t understand many of the above replies it does sound like my old stereo192 Mytek is not compatible with my new Mac mini. My old Mac mini and stereo192 worked well together using USB connection. Am I at least correct if I just want simple plug and play? You can also turn your old Mac Mini into a NAA (or some other protocol) and run player on the new Mac. Your old one becomes just a network endpoint. Maybe not the easiest solution to set up, but least expensive. This was practically the first consumer playback unit capable of playing DSD from a computer. Unfortunately neither of the USB interface company nor the company making the Firewire chipset seems to exist anymore. But the Firewire side is better supported because it has been used in a lot of pro-audio equipment over about two decades. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
HIFI Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Miska said: You can also turn your old Mac Mini into a NAA (or some other protocol) and run player on the new Mac. Your old one becomes just a network endpoint. Maybe not the easiest solution to set up, but least expensive. This was practically the first consumer playback unit capable of playing DSD from a computer. Unfortunately neither of the USB interface company nor the company making the Firewire chipset seems to exist anymore. But the Firewire side is better supported because it has been used in a lot of pro-audio equipment over about two decades. Unfortunately that would be too difficult for me to do because I just don’t understand all this computer stuff. I but if I understand correctly I shouldn’t have any compatibility trouble with newer DSD DAC’s available today and the latest Mac Mini available today ….correct ? My System : TWO SPEAKERS AND A CHAIR Link to comment
firedog Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, HIFI said: Unfortunately that would be too difficult for me to do because I just don’t understand all this computer stuff. I but if I understand correctly I shouldn’t have any compatibility trouble with newer DSD DAC’s available today and the latest Mac Mini available today ….correct ? Should be correct. But always check before you buy. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
yamamoto2002 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I think you should buy old intel Mac Mini for Mytek hardware, and recreate your old but more familiar setup Sunday programmer since 1985 Developer of PlayPcmWin Link to comment
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