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Which Came First, Hearing or Sound? An Evolutionary Tale of Moths and Bats


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On 11/5/2019 at 1:58 PM, Ralf11 said:

BTW, Jud - you might enjoy some of the books written by Stephen Jay Gould, for example: The Panda's Thumb


Read them, except the big evolutionary theory treatise.

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On 11/5/2019 at 1:57 PM, Ralf11 said:

Exaptation


Bit of an adaptationist view. Could also have been something neutral or nearly so, not particularly adaptive originally.

One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

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6 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

unlikely for a complex structure


Do you think female peacocks were the only birds that had a taste for big, pretty tail feathers? Or that these began to be seen in the peacock lineage as a random event, and were then adapted and refined by sexual selection?

One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

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