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[Steviewunda]

58 minutes ago, PML said:

@congofather made a job of explanation of that some month ago...

Thanks..found it on page 224

[PML]

50 minutes ago, Steviewunda said:

Thanks..found it on page 224

At the same moment Antonello explain some things about kernel...

But in fact even if it explain the technical aspects it's not really simple to make a correlation between technical aspect and change of sound quality, on RT and not RT, it is clear that non RT has more flexibility and sound is more fluid on the other side RT paranoïd rythm give a more 3D image, which is logical, when I choose RT on Host and non RT on Target it is like have a very precise conductor and a flexible execution, it can be seem as logic... But for other kernel attribute it's less intuitive.

[Audiophily]

for me too 6.7.6 rt eup nor is the best on the host but not in ram mode.

[Audiophily]

6.7.6-RT-ULTRA-EUP100-NOR-CLTO-TEST+ Is the Absolute the best.

[Auke]

I haven't heard all kernels yet. I made a selection of your suggestions.

 

I like:

Target:  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-EUP100-TEST+ 

Host:  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-RT-ULTRA-EUP100-NOR-TEST+

 

Didn't like

6.7.6 RT eup nor on Host and

6.7.6 non RT eup on Target,

All sound is beautiful, but somehow no emotional connection with the music.

 

Somebody tried the 6.1.77 kernels?

[PML]

16 minutes ago, Auke said:

I haven't heard all kernels yet. I made a selection of your suggestions.

 

I like:

Target:  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-EUP100-TEST+ 

Host:  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-RT-ULTRA-EUP100-NOR-TEST+

 

Didn't like

6.7.6 RT eup nor on Host and

6.7.6 non RT eup on Target,

All sound is beautiful, but somehow no emotional connection with the music.

 

Somebody tried the 6.1.77 kernels?

well just the opposite on my side ;-) The second is on my system more natural than the first... System, Ears and taste dependant ;-)

[Auke]

7 minutes ago, PML said:

well just the opposite on my side ;-) The second is on my system more natural than the first... System, Ears and taste dependant ;-)

Yea very strange. I thought it sounded wonderful, but it didn't reached my heart. Maybe i will try again some day.

[WuBai]

1 minute ago, Auke said:

Yea very strange. I thought it sounded wonderful, but it didn't reached my heart. Maybe i will try again some day.

Having been on this thread for a while, I've come to realize that some of the settings I use are too bright for Auke but just right for PML.  My DAC is a NewOnTech DAC 07, Amplifier is Luxman 509X and speakers are Buchardt S400 (heavily modified of course because I'm a tweaker like most on this thread).  So overall my system would definitely be considered 'warm' by most standards and benefit from some more lively settings and kernels.....

[PML]

De mon côté c'est du R2R et chaud classe A, donc c'est pas du sigma delta et purifi😋donc je ne suis pas sûr que mon goût soit vraiment la linéarité absolue (Holo mesure well but the amp...) 🤗malgré mon haut-parleur, ils sont très linéaires...

Alors ne fais pas trop attention à mon point de vue (d'oreille) 

Je préfère eup ni depuis longtemps, le 100 a toujours été un peu dur et contre nature sur mon système...

[Auke]

On 2/28/2024 at 11:01 AM, Wladimir said:

 

Also, you can tune the tonality with gpkernel parameters, I'm personally using 1,3,4.

Never played with this settings. Can you tell more about it?

[Audiophily]

13 minutes ago, PML said:

De mon côté c'est du R2R et chaud classe A, donc c'est pas du sigma delta et purifi 😋 donc je ne suis pas sûr que mon goût soit vraiment la linéarité absolue (Holo mesure well but the amp...)  🤗 malgré mon haut-parleur, ils sont très linéaires...

Alors ne fais pas trop Attention à mon point de vue (d'oreille) 

Preferisco eup ni depuis longtemps, le 100 a toujours été un peu dur et contre nature sur mon système...

I agree that the EUP100 is harder but the CLTO version is the first I've heard that isn't and is truly natural. Then it rightly depends on the whole setup.

[PML]

11 minutes ago, PML said:

De mon côté c'est du R2R et chaud classe A, donc c'est pas du sigma delta et purifi😋donc je ne suis pas sûr que mon goût soit vraiment la linéarité absolue (Holo mesure well but the amp...) 🤗malgré mon haut-parleur, ils sont très linéaires...

Alors ne fais pas trop attention à mon point de vue (d'oreille) 

Je préfère eup ni depuis longtemps, le 100 a toujours été un peu dur et contre nature sur mon système...

Sorry I had issue of translator

On my side it's R2R (even if Holo mesure well) and hot class A, so not at all sigma delta and purifi, so I have an hot system too, do not take much attention on my point of view (of ear) I prefer eup nor for a long time and 100 is always very little harsh on my side, perhaps it's the upsampling *2 of Audirvana

[Auke]

1 hour ago, Auke said:

Yea very strange. I thought it sounded wonderful, but it didn't reached my heart. Maybe i will try again some day.

Tried it again, but no not my taste, to brite and less dept. I am now playing with a combination. I think i like this for now.

 

6.7.6 RT eup nor on Host

  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-EUP100-TEST on target

 

 

 

 

 

[PML]

21 minutes ago, Auke said:

Tried it again, but no not my taste, to brite and less dept. I am now playing with a combination. I think i like this for now.

 

6.7.6 RT eup nor on Host

  6.7.6-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-EUP100-TEST on target

 

 

 

 

 

perfect with that on my side !

[Steviewunda]

I would like to try CLTO kernels, but the 'more info' link on the 'UP/DW kernel* New' tab says:

 

'To download and install CLTO kernels (kernels compiled with clang/lto full) you must have the extra option for this kernels enabled'

 

Which option is this, and where do I find it?

Cheers, Stevie

[mavwong]

You only see the CLTO kernal if you pay for this optional kernal to be seen.

 

[Steviewunda]

45 minutes ago, mavwong said:

You only see the CLTO kernal if you pay for this optional kernal to be seen.

 

Thank you - is there a consensus on whether they are worth paying extra for?

[steve0]

This is a stupid question... but is there any way I can change the default sound from my Mac to Gentoo?  I don't have a Gentoo option in my sound settings. I have Gentoo loaded on an RPI3 on my network, but I only have the default MacBook speakers that show up on my audio devices. I have audirvana, and it works fine via upnp

[Auke]

3 hours ago, Steviewunda said:

Thank you - is there a consensus on whether they are worth paying extra for?

No there is not a consensus. My personal opinion is that the CLTO kernel is marginal better than te normal kernel. My subscription ended last month, and i don't mis it.

[PML]

4 hours ago, steve0 said:

This is a stupid question... but is there any way I can change the default sound from my Mac to Gentoo?  I don't have a Gentoo option in my sound settings. I have Gentoo loaded on an RPI3 on my network, but I only have the default MacBook speakers that show up on my audio devices. I have audirvana, and it works fine via upnp

Use Airplay with a mac for system sound output

[PML]

And for PC with Diretta

 

[Ikyo]

11 hours ago, PML said:

perfect with that on my side !

Same for me.

i think my sound design taste not so far from your one! 
my system based on quad amps and Kef speakers is sounding more cosy cosy, with details, than pure analytic .

[chrisc]

How do you install Kernel 6.7.6?

 

I see it on the list and choose it.  It seems to go through the motions and then, doing a check of the Home System, there has been no upgrade at all

 

Here the first portion of the Home System

 

[antonellocaroli]

17 minutes ago, chrisc said:

How do you install Kernel 6.7.6?

 

I see it on the list and choose it.  It seems to go through the motions and then, doing a check of the Home System, there has been no upgrade at all

 

Here the first portion of the Home System

 

 

generally when you install a kernel, you should get this information at the end, you have done it?:
 

Switch/Update kernel ok

use  selectkernel or  webinterface>system base config>selectkernel to select the new kernel
or click the following link:

 

 

[chrisc]

Does not work like that

 

1st screen - 

 

Click on List Kernel, this appears

 

 

Have I missed a step?