aqs_ Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Wladimir said: That dryness and sterility you're describing, I'm attributing exactly to those field plugs. Perhaps in conjunction with these cables it's even worse, but the culprit are IMO the plugs themselves, not the cable. That's why I'm recommending the straight cable-crimpled plugs without all that additional nonsense around it. Have you tried those? In my experiments, what difference does a solid core AWG23-22 make is a more powerful, cleaner sound. Better definition / clarity all around. Obviously, not all are built the same, my favourite so far is Voka X-LAN 1500, but it's excessively rigid and pre-coiled to make any meaningful handling possible, so I'm looking for other alternatives with AWG22. I might try to add those ferrites to hear what's it going to contribute. I used the same Rj45 plugs with different LAN cables, in my case cat7 cables do not work in the final connection, as I wrote, the sound is strained and sterile. There is one exception from NAS to a CAT7 router, it works very well, but the final point from EtherRegen to RPI4 here is only good old copper Link to comment
Popular Post Auke Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 Made one with utp cat5e 4*2*24agw solid coper wire i did have. With no name plugs. Sounds very very good. aqs_ and Wladimir 2 Link to comment
lithiumnk Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 @antonellocaroliDiretta asio(win11) is not detecting gentooplayer rpi4 diretta target running on vmware fusion app for MacBook m2 air. One wired connection (Ethernet) directly to rpi4 gp diretta target & other to access Internet. Wifi is off. I'm using usb c to ethernet adapter for both connection. USB adapter is detected by asio driver but shows only in interface drop down list & not in target dropdown list. Any solution? DDC: Singer SU6, Metrum Ambre DAC: Metrum Pavane, Weiss 205 Amp/Preamp: AGD Audions, Herron VTSP 360 Ref HP: Raal SR1a, BS650, BP580, HE6sev2, Yamaha HP1 Speakers: Kairos Link to comment
antonellocaroli Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 15 minutes ago, lithiumnk said: vmware fusion app for MacBook m2 air. I have never tried it on virtual machines... I don't even see the point... GentooPlayer home Facebook Documentation Link to comment
lithiumnk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 2/7/2024 at 8:14 PM, lithiumnk said: @antonellocaroliDiretta asio(win11) is not detecting gentooplayer rpi4 diretta target running on vmware fusion app for MacBook m2 air. One wired connection (Ethernet) directly to rpi4 gp diretta target & other to access Internet. Wifi is off. I'm using usb c to ethernet adapter for both connection. USB adapter is detected by asio driver but shows only in interface drop down list & not in target dropdown list. Any solution? Happy to report Diretta's new updates for tools & preview are working fine on MacBook m2 air running parallels win 11. Offline files/folder can be played with very good SQ. DDC: Singer SU6, Metrum Ambre DAC: Metrum Pavane, Weiss 205 Amp/Preamp: AGD Audions, Herron VTSP 360 Ref HP: Raal SR1a, BS650, BP580, HE6sev2, Yamaha HP1 Speakers: Kairos Link to comment
chrisc Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Is there a setting that will alter the output level of the streamer (RPi4 in a Mercury 2Pi)? The output is to low via the AES output that the DAC switches itself off after 10 mins due to insufficient signal The Cape Town Hi-Fi Club. Achieve astonishing sound Listening stuff: Mercury Pi2, Devialet 440CI, REL sub, ML Electromotion, 2 x Dachshunds Link to comment
PML Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 31 minutes ago, lithiumnk said: Happy to report Diretta's new updates for tools & preview are working fine on MacBook m2 air running parallels win 11. Offline files/folder can be played with very good SQ. You mean you use target and host in the same machine on VM ? Strange because goal of diretta target is to avoid impacting target by the host activity and minimize electric impact by separation of target... If thez are on the same machine I do not exactly understand the gain... Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
lithiumnk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 33 minutes ago, PML said: You mean you use target and host in the same machine on VM ? Strange because goal of diretta target is to avoid impacting target by the host activity and minimize electric impact by separation of target... If thez are on the same machine I do not exactly understand the gain... Host is Diretta asio drivers running on MacBook Air m2 via parallels app (Windows 11). Target is rpi4 diretta gentooplayer connected directly via usb to ethernet adapter. Other adapter is used to connect to net. I'm using MacBook as I don't have access to my gentooplayer host (hdplex fanless server) & windows machine. DDC: Singer SU6, Metrum Ambre DAC: Metrum Pavane, Weiss 205 Amp/Preamp: AGD Audions, Herron VTSP 360 Ref HP: Raal SR1a, BS650, BP580, HE6sev2, Yamaha HP1 Speakers: Kairos Link to comment
PML Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 32 minutes ago, lithiumnk said: Host is Diretta asio drivers running on MacBook Air m2 via parallels app (Windows 11). Target is rpi4 diretta gentooplayer connected directly via usb to ethernet adapter. Other adapter is used to connect to net. I'm using MacBook as I don't have access to my gentooplayer host (hdplex fanless server) & windows machine. Ah ok, and you use ARM Windows ? With which player ? Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
Markus8 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 What do I need to do to test this on a Holo Audio Red? Link to comment
lithiumnk Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 hours ago, PML said: Ah ok, and you use ARM Windows ? With which player ? No player ... direct playback from diretta. Files load in ram. Follow diretta''s Insta account for latest development. DDC: Singer SU6, Metrum Ambre DAC: Metrum Pavane, Weiss 205 Amp/Preamp: AGD Audions, Herron VTSP 360 Ref HP: Raal SR1a, BS650, BP580, HE6sev2, Yamaha HP1 Speakers: Kairos Link to comment
PML Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, Markus8 said: What do I need to do to test this on a Holo Audio Red? This ? What do you mean ? GP ? It's normal install RPI4 version on your Red. Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
PML Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, PML said: This ? What do you mean ? GP ? It's normal install RPI4 version on your Red. And do not choose dac or output it is set by default to the right Red output Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
ditusade Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I tend to concur with the observation on the new GP version (50/.73). I find it lacking in PRATT and general musicality. Got the magic back when reset my system on version 40 (/.53). Not sure what happened there with the new GP version. Link to comment
PML Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, ditusade said: I tend to concur with the observation on the new GP version (50/.73). I find it lacking in PRATT and general musicality. Got the magic back when reset my system on version 40 (/.53). Not sure what happened there with the new GP version. There is an issue with 73 kernel but 50 is nice (Diretta, Mpd upgrade etc...) You can use kernel 53 with version 50. In the storie of GP There were allready in the past issue with some kernel... Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
aqs_ Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I made this combination: 6.6.2 RT + the latest kernel 6.1.73 Ultra Eup 100, it plays very well Link to comment
PML Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, aqs_ said: I made this combination: 6.6.2 RT + the latest kernel 6.1.73 Ultra Eup 100, it plays very well Which on the Host and Which on the Target ? Qobuz Studio -> Audirvana Studio Linux on RPI5 Gentoo Player v8.60 (kernel 6.8.1-GentooPlayer-ULTRA-CLTO-TEST+ , Shanti Alim, tweak kernel) -> Holo Red GP Mpd/Upmpdcli (same kernel) -Silver I2S> Holo Spring 2 kte -Silver XLR> BC Accoustique 362 D -> Quellis 1 Optima. Link to comment
aqs_ Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Tab, UP/DW Kernel old 6.6.2 RT Tab, Saelect Kernel 6.1.73 Ultra Eup 100 Link to comment
Dandou Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 You were discussing Ethernet cables, so I have some feedback to post. I tested a dozen of different cables over the last year. And it's amazing what a difference an Ethernet cable can make. I recommend the Sablon Audio for the coherency of the sound stage. The best that I could try is the Final Touch Metis. With it, one has the impression that the musicians are playing inside his listening room. Link to comment
Barnabas Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I've enabled networkaudiod ramsystem on my endpoint device, now my governer setting defaults to performance mode. Can you change the governor setting when networkaudiod ramsystem is enabled? Link to comment
antonellocaroli Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Barnabas said: I've enabled networkaudiod ramsystem on my endpoint device, now my governer setting defaults to performance mode. Can you change the governor setting when networkaudiod ramsystem is enabled? gp-update should solve GentooPlayer home Facebook Documentation Link to comment
Barnabas Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 19 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: gp-update should solve Solved! Many thanks :) Link to comment
Ikyo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Hello , coming back to the Ethernet cables subject : I’ve to say I was a bit sceptic to consider a real improvement by using better quality Ethernet cables and connectors . i made my own cables based on Sommer cable SC Mercator Cat 6 super flex connectors are Deleycon Mk3409 (impossible to use standard connectors as logylink MP0048 with such strong cable). Classic ferrit tores The factual results : restarting all the network and first listening : more details, more articulation, harshness, hard mediums, lack of bass, short stage ! positive think : this is a proof of the cable interaction in the system !! I made the choice to let a chance to the cable to make me happy, then I let the system running alone during around 3-4 hours. wahou !!! Amazing upgrade, the system is coming back to my welknown softy sound but with really more details, more instruments presences, voices are more natural, the stage still fitting the recordings. incredible how this network cable/connector matter is interacting in the system. The only recommandation I can give to not already well equipped people : regarding the low investment (on case of DIY process of course), make it, you will be surprised by the results. aqs_ 1 Streamer : RPI4 8Go + Gentooplayer ( 8.5 Kernel CTLO) + Diretta Target + Audiophonics DIGIPI+I2S - RPI4 8Go + Gentooplayer ( 8.5 Kernel CTLO) + Diretta Host + UpmPCli + MDP Bit Perfect - Power supply DIY Audiophonics S4-HP Micrel29752 - Server : Mac mini + LMS -DAC : MUSICIAN Pegasus R2R - Preamp : QUAD PRE 99 - Amps : QUAD 606 MKII (recaped and updated) x 2 - Speakers : KEF REFERENCE 203/1 - Speaker Cables : REAL CABLE 3D-TDC - DAC to Pream Cable : DIY NEOTECH NEMOI-3220 OCC PTFE Ø10mm - Preamp to Amps Cables : QED Performance Audio 40i - Ethernet Cables : SOMMER CABLE 580‑0201 CAT 6 S/UTP + RJ45 connectors LOGILINK MP048 Link to comment
Progman Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Hi, question for the experts: I no longer see the CPUs on system info and the governor is unavailable. I attach the system info. Thank you. _____ _ _____ _ / ____| | | | __ \| | | | __ ___ _ __ | |_ ___ ___ | |__) | | __ _ _ _ ___ _ __ | | |_ |/ _ \ '_ \| __/ _ \ / _ \| ___/| |/ _` | | | |/ _ \ '__| | |__| | __/ | | | || (_) | (_) | | | | (_| | |_| | __/ | \_____|\___|_| |_|\__\___/ \___/|_| |_|\__,_|\__, |\___|_| __/ | |___/ Profile: Profile not Setting RamSystem: Mode 4 Free memory: 3655MB of total 7677MB Kernel: 6.7.0-rt6-x86_64-GentooPlayer-RT-ULTRA ─────────────────────────────────────── GentooPlayer | 14:20 | Sun 18/02/24 ─────────────────────────────────────── v8.50-195 | Generic Device (x86_64) ─────────────────────────────────────── eth0 | 192.168.178.20 ─────────────────────────────────────── Players/soft. Info: Squeezelite-R2 [Disabled] Squeezelite [Disabled] Networkaudiod [Disabled] LogitechMediaServer [Disabled] BubbleUpnp [Disabled] HQPlayer Embedded [Enabled] Mpd [Disabled] UpMpdCli [Disabled] RoonBridge [Disabled] RoonServer [Enabled] myMPD [Disabled] minimserver [Disabled] shairport-sync [Disabled] spotify-connect [Disabled] web-interface [Enabled] Samba [Disabled] gmediarender [Disabled] camillagui [Disabled] aplayer [Disabled] aprenderer [Disabled] gstreciver [Disabled] HotSpot [Disabled] GP-Service Info: gpchronystop [Enabled] gphavagedstop [Enabled] gpkernel1 [Enabled] gprtclock [Enabled] gpsetrestart [Enabled] Started Service: netmount diretta roonserver sshd local hqplayerd dhcpcd Stopped Service: chronyd gpkernel1 gprtclock gphavagedstop gpchronystop gpsetrestart Crashed Service: ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Boot Options: "quiet splash transparent_hugepage=never clocksource=tsc selinux=0" ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── *** Scanning for playback devices *** Card 0, ID `Diretta71A0', name `TargetApp_AFB8' Device 0, ID `TargetApp_AFB8:snd_rpi_hifiberry_digi', name `snd_rpi_hifiberry_digi', 1 subdevices (0 available) Error opening sound device for card 0, device 0: Device or resource busy. Skipping. ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── AUDIO CARDS INFO: CARD TYPE ADDRESS NAME -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- card0 Internal Audio card card0 --> -- TargetApp_AFB8:snd_rpi_hifiberry_digi card0 STATUS --> access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S24_3LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 176400 (176400/1) period_size: 6400 buffer_size: 76800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: root 5136 F.... hqplayerd /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: root 5136 F...m hqplayerd -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── K-1c:69:7a:af:a3:c0 ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on none tmpfs 3.8G 844K 3.8G 1% /run udev devtmpfs 10M 4.0K 10M 1% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 3.8G 8.0K 3.8G 1% /dev/shm /dev/sdb3 ext4 110G 12G 94G 11% / efivarfs efivarfs 192K 50K 138K 27% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars /dev/sdc1 exfat 15G 1.5G 13G 11% /media/roon /dev/sda1 ext4 1.9T 515G 1.4T 28% /media/Rock none tmpfs 7.4G 12M 7.4G 1% /bin none tmpfs 7.4G 17M 7.4G 1% /etc none tmpfs 7.4G 9.3M 7.4G 1% /sbin none tmpfs 7.4G 16M 7.4G 1% /lib none tmpfs 7.4G 14M 7.4G 1% /lib64 none tmpfs 7.4G 1.1G 6.3G 15% /usr none tmpfs 7.4G 16M 7.4G 1% /var none tmpfs 7.4G 5.0M 7.4G 1% /tmp none tmpfs 7.4G 613M 6.8G 9% /opt none tmpfs 7.4G 1.1G 6.3G 15% /root /dev/sdb2 vfat 545M 174M 372M 32% /boot ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── CPU(s): 8 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7 Thread(s) per core: 2 Vendor ID: GenuineIntel BIOS Vendor ID: Intel(R) Corporation BIOS CPU family: 205 CPU family: 6 Model: 142 Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz BIOS Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz To Be Filled By O.E.M. CPU @ 1.6GHz ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Information not available in ram mode ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Gentooplayer CPU Info Use cpu-governor to change CPU / performance options ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Architecture | x86_64 Temp | 31'c : 87'f | Cool runnings. Governor | Unknown Current Freq Min Freq Max Freq CPU0 | 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 MHz ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── COMMAND %CPU RoonAppliance 26.0 hqplayerd 8.5 RAATServer 0.3 syncAlsaSingle 0.1 RoonServer 0.0 irq/129-eth0 0.0 RamSystem you can not use this function ramsystem enabled - check recompile failed ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Info: ramsystem enabled - check recompile does not work in ramsystem ───────────────────────────────────────────────────── Link to comment
antonellocaroli Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Progman said: Hi, question for the experts: I no longer see the CPUs on system info and the governor is unavailable. I attach the system info. Thank you. Have you enabled 'cpufreq.off=1' in TWK varius? GentooPlayer home Facebook Documentation Link to comment
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