Ralf11 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 you deliberately attempt to derail threads, spammyK - not me the real question is whether you can understand most of the things I have to say WORST is the claim that you and Martin colloms conducted 48 tests - I checked and that is NOT in the pm's you sent me as a charity, I could conclude it was an oversight by you Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Speed Racer said: How? By what mechanism? Here we go again. Do the measurements and research yourself if you wish to refute the claims of others. Sorry, I forgot that you have no qualifications in that area, or suitable test equipment either. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, Ralf11 said: you deliberately attempt to derail threads, spammyK - not me the real question is whether you can understand most of the things I have to say WORST is the claim that you and Martin colloms conducted 48 tests - I checked and that is NOT in the pm's you sent me as a charity, I could conclude it was an oversight by you IGNORED, as will be any further posts that you directly address to me. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
mansr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, sandyk said: Do the measurements and research yourself if you wish to refute the claims of others. That goes both ways. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 he doesn't know how - don't be unfair Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, mansr said: This morning's problem wasn't related to audio at all. It's an embedded computing device, and long story short, the DRAM power supply was off spec, causing all kinds of mayhem. Was it due to a component failure , or an out of tolerance component ? Just curious. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, mansr said: That goes both ways. That can only apply when the person making the claim has access to suitable test equipment, and the training to correctly use and interpret the results. That is why I normally involve others with expertise in this area that I lack, due to only a general electronics background, or proven musical experience such as a Recording or Mastering Engineer. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
mansr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, sandyk said: Was it due to a component failure , or an out of tolerance component ? Design flaw. Someone failed to read the datasheet. Link to comment
plissken Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, sandyk said: Yet once again, the demand is being made of non technical people to provide technical explanations. My protocol is the antitheses of this. It's relying on the sole claim that you or others can simply hear the difference. You and others have asked objective people to trust your collective ears and I'm doing so. I'm also offering, as incentive to do well, $2000. Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, mansr said: Design flaw. Someone failed to read the datasheet. OOPS ! Were you the only one to experience this problem ? How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
sandyk Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, plissken said: My protocol is the antitheses of this. It's relying on the sole claim that you or others can simply hear the difference. You and others have asked objective people to trust your collective ears and I'm doing so. I'm also offering, as incentive to do well, $2000. I previously said the attached. Quote BTW, although I do not discount the possibility of anti vibration measures of the router improving SQ, I certainly would not expect the audible differences to be of a sufficient magnitude to be confirmed under stressful DBT type conditions. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
plissken Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, sandyk said: claim that Plissken's methodology must have been flawed It's why the testing methodology is stated up front and not after the fact. The objective crowd has plenty of opportunity to find the flaws beforehand or simply shut up. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Oh My Gawd! Guessing is SO STRESSFUL!!! I hope Plisskin can work thru all the human experimentation requirements with NIH. Link to comment
mansr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, sandyk said: OOPS ! Were you the only one to experience this problem ? It's a new design. Some units were mysteriously having issues. The current theory is that some component is operating at the very edge of its envelope, and random variations mean it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. It is no longer my problem. Link to comment
plissken Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, sandyk said: BTW, although I do not discount the possibility of anti vibration measures of the router improving SQ, I certainly would not expect the audible differences to be of a sufficient magnitude to be confirmed under stressful DBT type conditions. If your ability to discern rests on the knifes edge of being asked to verify your claim then IMO the claim is dubious at best. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Remember I can turn invisible, but only when nothing or no one is watching. Link to comment
plissken Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Since I started this thread I would like to state that the only posts I want from here on out is one accepting my offer publicly and we can sort out the detail privately. We can then circle back after with the results: To reiterate the router will be in another room, cable ran to the stereo or mch system. 90% confidence needs to be hit with at least 20 rounds. Any post past this that's not an offer to me to come out I will ask Chris to delete. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Posts removed (including my own). Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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