How DOES the grounding boxes work?

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Just now, plissken said:

This may be some A+ trolling folks

 

Audirvana Plus?

 

Damn them folks.

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2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 So, anyone got an idea why grounding boxes might work? 

 

The same way prayer works to cure cancer.

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2 hours ago, Cornan said:

I So, how about the grounding boxes? Why do they work?

 

They don't.

 

I'll guess you did'nt read the first post properly, right? ?

 

I did.

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2 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Real life experiance? 

I think you missed the stupid part! ?

 

 

Have you tried to cure cancer with prayer?  If not, why assume that it won't work?

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1 minute ago, Cornan said:

 

I'm the OP. Do I have to explain the difference between personal attacks and stupid comments?

 

No, you just have to explain why anyone should take absurd claims about obvious hucksterism seriously.

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3 minutes ago, Cornan said:

Explain why not?

 

It violates Conservation of Charge.

 

Next?

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Just now, Cornan said:

 

Explain why grounding boxes is against physics.

 

Perhaps your time might be better spent if you learned some basic, high school-level physics.

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4 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

Teach me! ?

 

Teach yourself:  

 

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cornan said:

 

Sorry, now you're a bit stupid again.

 

 

Perhaps assuming you might be interested in learning physics from the courses made publicly available by MIT was rather stupid of me.

 

But why would you want a stupid person to teach you?  After all, you learned internet trolling really well all by yourself.

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So you mean that you know how to measure how grounding boxes works? Great, give it to me! ?

 

Or you could just do an experiment:

 

Attach a "hot" wire to your grounding box device with an amp meter, and measure the current.  What do you get?

 

(A more mean-spirited version would have you connect the hot wire, and then touch the metal in the grounding box while you stand barefoot on the ground.  If you live, the grounding box works.  If not, then your faith in alternative facts was misplaced.)

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Just now, elcorso said:

 

My answer is because Cornan's question is not answered. If the one who answers says that it is not possible because of the sacrosanct laws of Physics, it is fine for me, but let's take a look at the biography of Einstein, now in Nat Geo. On the other hand, those who answer do not own the Grounding Boxes.

 

Please nderstand me well that I am not defending the effectiveness (or not) of those Boxes, I do not have any nor plan to buy it. What bothers me (and has always bothered me) is as a certain group of this forum (they are almost always the same) is so willing to attack someone who puts a new thread that seems wrong to them because or the laws of Physic. By this way very few people are going to dare to pose new threads.

 

It's better to teach, if you have the knowledge, than to make fun. Isn't it?

 

Roch

 

If you ground something, the electrons (which are negatively charged) flow into the earth.  If you have something that is electrically isolated and suspended in space, and not connected to the earth, it cannot dissipate electrons, so no current flows, and no grounding takes place.  This has nothing to do with something like Einstein's discoveries.  In the case of special relativity, Einstein offered a new interpretation of why Maxwell's Laws of Electrodynamics were invariant under a Lorentz transformation. Einstein did not change the laws of electrodynamics in any way whatsoever.

 

As for me, I suggested he take advantage of the free on-line physics lectures that MIT has made available.  It is a tremendously valuable, high-quality resource from one of the best institutions in the world.  How is that making fun of anything?

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5 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

As long as we confine ourselves within the ancient realm of "electricity" we will not be able to move forward into a boundless eternity of audiophile joy.

 

Owsley Stanley seemed to be able to do that (developing the monitor speaker, differential microphones, and the Wall of Sound) completely within the "ancient realm of 'electricity'.  He didn't use things like grounding boxes.

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3 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

the complete lack of any actual first hand experience

 

Do you feel the same about those who question the efficacy of faith-healing?

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2 minutes ago, esldude said:

But he was an audio engineer and chemist.  He used drugs.  With drugs you don't need the grounding boxes to do the impossible. 

 

But even his most wacky, drugged-out inventions operated completely within the confines of the "ancient realm of 'electricity'.

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42 minutes ago, lasker98 said:

 

I can but I won't dignify that question with a serious response. I think we have more than enough trolls on these threads without any encouragement.

 

The thread itself is a troll.

 

Anyone who thinks sand in a box is a ground has sand in their head.  Anyone who sells such a thing as a grounding device should probably have a chat with their liability attorney.

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I went to one of those liberal arts colleges.  

 

That ain't where this comes from.

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4 minutes ago, christopher3393 said:

Gee, and I thought I might have a liberal arts vector on this:  http://www.sunypress.edu/pdf/60608.pdf

 

Or this:  https://www.computeraudiophile.com/profile/4879-wgscott/?tab=field_core_pfield_1

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28 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

I thought you were a Bezerkely-ite - grad. school?

 

my point tho is there is insufficient science education in the liberal arts curriculum (and what there is, tends to teach science as a body of knowledge, not as a procedure for understanding reality)

 

Yeah, I went to Berkeley for grad school.  I went to a small college in Maine before that.

 

Turns out the National Academy did a survey, and a disproportionately large number of their members are the product of small liberal arts colleges.  

 

If science is being misrepresented in higher education, I think it is our fault (i.e., that of the scientists).

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3 hours ago, lmitche said:

Can someone please tell me how to block a member?

 

Use the menu at the top right corner to access "Ignored Users" and then put the name in the box and check which items you want ignored.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

I took his question as rhetorical... 

 

It was the question posed in the OP that was disingenuous.

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9 minutes ago, Abtr said:

Personally I don't see a fundamental electrical difference between (mother) Earth and a bucket of grit or sand, except for the different scale of the possible electrical properties. So if, e.g., connecting protective shields or signal grounds to earth is beneficial, then grounding boxes might 'work'..   

 

In that case, put a lightning rod on the roof of your house and connect it with a wire to a bucket of grit or sand.  Let us know what happens after the next thunder storm.