The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hi Guys - JRiver recently released a cool feature. Here are the details. "MC22.0.41 added a new Listening Test, a comparison feature available from the Tools > Library Tools Menu. It allows you to listen to different formats of the same track, rate them, and then find out how good you are at distinguishing them from each other. Here is how it works. 1. Find an audio track in your library. 2. Select it and choose Listening Test from the Library Tools menu. 3. MC will then convert the track to several new temporary files whose names are A, B, C, etc. and automatically put them in Playing Now. 4. Play them as much as you want, rate them with MC's star ratings. 5. When you click done, the results will be displayed. 6. When you press OK on the results page, the temporary files will be deleted. Your original file is not affected in any way." Source - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,107924.0.html Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 An intriguing idea but, imho, just a novelty in its present form. The "different formats" are automatically selected by JRMC and, so far, are only MP3 downsamples. There has been a lot of beta team feedback urging more user control over format conversions and/or the ability to compare any user-selected files. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 An intriguing idea but, imho, just a novelty in its present form. The "different formats" are automatically selected by JRMC and, so far, are only MP3 downsamples. There has been a lot of beta team feedback urging more user control over format conversions and/or the ability to compare any user-selected files. Ah yes. Fortunately they started somewhere and have room to improve. Let's hope they listen to the feedback and make some changes. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Nikhil Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 An intriguing idea but, imho, just a novelty in its present form. The "different formats" are automatically selected by JRMC and, so far, are only MP3 downsamples. There has been a lot of beta team feedback urging more user control over format conversions and/or the ability to compare any user-selected files. +1 ... why would anyone want to compare mp3 versions of a file? More relevant for me would be comparisons like 16/44.1 vs DSD128 vs PCM 32/384 etc Custom Win10 Server | Mutec MC-3+ USB | Lampizator Amber | Job INT | ATC SCM20PSL + JL Audio E-Sub e110 Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 +1 ... why would anyone want to compare mp3 versions of a file?More relevant for me would be comparisons like 16/44.1 vs DSD128 vs PCM 32/384 etc Of course and the JRiver guys know how we feel about this. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
One and a half Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Jriver should spend more time on improving PCM to DSD conversion algorithms, dither, selectable filtering (like HQPlayer) which needs a lot more attention than parlour games. AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Jriver should spend more time on improving PCM to DSD conversion algorithms, dither, selectable filtering (like HQPlayer) which needs a lot more attention than parlour games. Here's the place to post that message: Feature Requests Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Nikhil Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Here's the place to post that message: Feature Requests I can almost predict Jim's reply ... "can you hear the difference?" From my interactions on there, I don't know if they have the expertise in house to implement filters. I could be wrong but they probably need a hired gun to put some of those features in place - someone with a background in filters and signal processing. Again based on their model, I suspect they will get to this only when a significant number of users request it. In their defense, the SQ improvement in v22 was pretty good but they seem to be more excited about home automation stuff with Engen and Panel. Custom Win10 Server | Mutec MC-3+ USB | Lampizator Amber | Job INT | ATC SCM20PSL + JL Audio E-Sub e110 Link to comment
One and a half Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Here's the place to post that message: Feature Requests Thanks Kal, let's see if the post will be deleted. AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Thanks Kal, let's see if the post will be deleted. Yes. That will depend on how it is expressed. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
tedwoods Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Jriver should spend more time on improving PCM to DSD conversion algorithms, dither, selectable filtering (like HQPlayer) which needs a lot more attention than parlour games. Absolutely! And also make DSD up sampling available through dlna! Sent from my eSTAR BEAUTY HD Quad core using Computer Audiophile mobile app Link to comment
jriver Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 An intriguing idea but, imho, just a novelty in its present form. The "different formats" are automatically selected by JRMC and, so far, are only MP3 downsamples. There has been a lot of beta team feedback urging more user control over format conversions and/or the ability to compare any user-selected files. We added DSD for you, Kal. It's in build 48, on the MC22 board: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/board,50.0.html Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center / jriver.com Link to comment
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