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    The Perfect Limited Ultimate Super Deluxe Edition Complete Unicorn Boxed Set

     

     

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    Before I take a few days off to wind down the Summer, enjoying two Pearl Jam shows here in Minnesota this week, and the Labor Day holiday, I just have to write an article about boxed sets. I thought I was over boxed sets once "everything" was available for download or streaming. However, my journey into immersive audio has plunged me back into the boxed set world more than ever, and I have some strong feelings about this super deluxe world.

     

    Led_Zeppelin_-_Boxed_Set.jpgThe first boxed set I owned was the Led Zeppelin crop circles four CD box. It blew my 15 year old mind when I received it for Christmas in 1990. My older brother and I went up to my room, put in one disc at a time, and listened to the entire box. He schooled me on the less known tracks and introduced me to some deep cuts. It's a memory I'll cherish forever. 

     

    In 2023 boxed sets are a different animal. Each of us could put together a streaming playlist, call it the Led Zeppelin boxed set, and listen to the equivalent of what I had in 1990. Except now it would be high resolution. At first blush this seems much better. But, I challenge anyone to give it a shot and assign a number from 1 to 10 on the meaning and value of that new playlist. The experience falls pretty flat. 

     

    Even purchasing and downloading the equivalent of a boxed set is less than stellar. It's better than the streaming playlist boxed set, but still nothing like an official physical boxed set. 

     

    On the other end of this continuum are the boxed sets that have eaten away at my retirement in the last year. I'm absolutely cool with expensive boxed sets, but I'm not thrilled with many of them. I value the music, information, photos, and videos in that order. Anything else is filler. 

     

    For example, I purchased the Moving Pictures and Signals boxed sets from the band Rush. The Moving Pictures box was $300 and, "Includes a 3 CD set featuring the 2015 album remaster and the complete, unreleased Toronto concert from March 25, 1981. All audio is also showcased on 5 LPs cut at half-speed DMM on 180-gram vinyl. Blu-ray Audio disc presents a first-ever Dolby Atmos and new 5.1 surround album mix including the brand-new video for "YYZ" + 3 music videos. Extras include a book, model car, drumsticks, posters, and more!" 

     

    I purchased it solely for the Blu-ray because that's the only way to obtain the lossless TrueHD Dolby Atmos version of this album. The other music included is welcomed, even for this luke warm Rush fan. What I can't stand are the trinkets. A model car, drumsticks, guitar picks, pin, and fake concert ticket don't move the needle in the right direction for me. 

     

    Rubbing more salt in the wounds of those of us who purchased this box upon its release is the current price of $126. This makes one wonder what the box is really worth if it's for sale, brand new, for 58% less than MSRP. I could've waited for this price drop, but I could've also missed out on the box if it went out of print. 

     

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    Rush of course isn't the only band doing this. I currently have The Who - Who's Next / Life House (10CD) Super Deluxe Edition on order. It was $300 when first announced. The price has dropped 14% even though the box hasn't been released yet, and Amazon offers a pre-order price guarantee, which makes it a little more palatable. I like that this box contains a ton of music, but I think having five different versions of Baba O’Riley crosses into filler territory (Baba O’Riley (remastered), Baba O’Riley (original demo), Baba O’Riley (demo), Baba O’Riley (first editing demo), and Baba O’Riley (TrueHD Dolby Atmos)). Definite filler, "2 gig posters, 2 concert programs, 4 buttons & a band photo with printed autographs." 


    With my rant out of the way, I want to give credit where credit is due. There are artists releasing what I consider to be perfect boxed sets. My two most recent favorites are from the artist named Fish and the band The Pineapple Thief. These guys have hit the happy medium between streaming playlist and a $300 box of trinkets. 

     

     

    Fish - 13th Star37.50) (link)

     

    13th Star.jpegI'd honestly never heard of Fish with an F, prior to seeing that he'd released a boxed set with a TrueHD Dolby Atmos version of his album 13th Star. I listened to the stereo version, then decided I needed the Blu-ray with Atmos. When the box arrived I was thrilled because the music and Atmos mix are great, and the items included are an absolute perfect mix of what I want and what I'm willing to pay for and feel happy about my purchase. For £37.50 the 13th Star box contains the 2023 remixed version of the album, a 100 page hardcover book with tons of information and photos, three CDs including demos and live acoustic recordings, a Blu-ray with Atmos, 5.1, and original 2008 mixes, a two hour documentary, and a full concert video. 

     

    I read the 100 page book cover to cover because it was a fascinating peak into the life of Fish. It was information I couldn't get anywhere else and it was all in a really nice book. I should also mention the size of the box / book is perfect. Nothing huge to take up more shelf space than necessary. 

     

    I think offering the lossy Atmos version on streaming services Apple Music, Amazon Music, and Tidal, while offering the lossless TrueHD Atmos version via purchased Blu-ray is a great way for artists to make money and satisfy fans. It's a win-win and it doesn't have to be in a $300 box of trinkets. Heck, Fish even gives fans the option of paying an extra £20.00 for a personalized signature on the box. It's optional and it's handwritten. Another win.

     


    The Pineapple Thief - How Did We Find Our Way: 1999-2006 ($95) (link)

     

    The Pineapple Thief is a band I'd also never heard of until I got into immersive audio. I saw its album Nothing But the Truth available for purchase as a lossless TrueHD Atmos download and I went for it. I really liked the music and subsequently purchased a Blu-ray of the Give if Back album. This year The Pineapple Thief released an amazing boxed set titled How Did We Find Our Way: 1999-2006, for $95. 

     

    "Containing TPT’s first five studio albums - from Abducting The Unicorn to Little Man - plus the two 8 Days recordings and 80 minutes of rare bonus material, How Did We Find Our Way: 1999-2006 is the first in a series of deluxe book-sets cataloguing the The Pineapple Thief’s output. 
     
    All albums have been remixed from their original sessions and are offered in stereo, Dolby Atmos and 5.1 DTS-HD surround.
     
    TPT's Steve Kitch has mastered the stereo mixes. 
     
    Bruce says, “The Atmos mixes in this box set could be played on anything from a huge theatre with 100 speakers to an enthusiasts home setup with perhaps 8 speakers through to something much more straightforward such as a soundbar or even streamed to headphones.”. 
     
    The set includes a 64-page book featuring previously unseen, rare photographs from Bruce’s personal archive, along with superb liner notes from Anil Prasad and interviews with Bruce.
     
    Limited edition, one time pressing. Exclusive art print signed by Bruce Soord for the first 500 orders on Burning Shed only."

     

     

    How Did We Find Our Way.jpgThe best part about this boxed set is that it includes all seven albums in TrueHD Dolby Atmos on a single Blu-ray Disc! It's so efficient! There's no need for separate discs because a Blu-ray can hold tens of GB worth of data. This box is all about music, with some nice information and photos. It's perfect for me. Plus, similar to the Fish release and opposite of any major label release, purchasers could get an art print included that was actually hand signed by Bruce Soord, not some machine with a marker (aka printer). 

     

    It was, and still is, a real treat to sit down to seven albums I'd never heard previously, all in TrueHD Dolby Atmos. I was able to rip the entire Blu-ray in a single shot, creating files for my music server that I enjoy in Atmos all the time. I hope more bands will look at what The Pineapple Thief has done and release entire back catalogs on one, two, or three Blu-ray Discs. For the most part, the effort to remix in TrueHD Atmos has been done because that's needed to produce the lossy versions released to streaming. Going the extra step of getting a Blu-ray authored will certainly return more money than the fraction of a penny streaming is delivering to artist bank accounts, and it'll make us fans very happy :~)

     

    As I was finishing this article I noticed a new Frank Zappa super deluxe edition for the Over-Nite Sensation album. It contains four CDs and a Blu-ray. The CDs are reasonable, with 57 unreleased tracks or mixes and two live concert discs. The Blu-ray, "contains the album newly re-mixed in Dolby Atmos and 5.1 surround by Karma Auger and Erich Gobel at Studio1LA, Zappa’s original 4-channel Quadraphonic mix (available for the first time since 1973), and the Hi-Res stereo 2012 remaster at 192K24B and 96K24B." That's fantastic anyway you look at it. It's as if Zappa's team surveyed the vault and the amount of space available on a Blu-ray and said, "can we fit it all on there?" I love it. Pre-order complete. 

     

     

     

    Cheers to those producing what music lovers want. Now it's time to get ready for PEARL JAM AT XCEL ENERGY CENTER!!!

     

     

    P.S. Here are the details about the Wu-Tang Clan album Once Upon a Time in Shaolin that I used in the main photo for the article. It's quite a story. 

     

     

     

     




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    Make sure you have some ear plugs for Pearl Jam.

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    Just now, JoeWhip said:

    Make sure you have some ear plugs for Pearl Jam.

    Oh yes. I wear my custom in-ear monitors. The sound of concerts is actually much better with 26 dB of passive isolation. 

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    Nice article! Although most people are streaming their music today, I think there will always be a market for discs, black or silver.

     

    (But - as you point out - there are boxed sets and there are boxed sets. I happily paid for John Coltrane - The Atlantic Recordings in Mono and Coltrane ' 58/The Prestige Recordings (although several recordings were already in my library).

    I also bought a box with Sibelius recordings: The Essential Sibelius (BIS), 15 discs. Seemed to be good value (and, for a Sibelius-junk, it probably is). But the problem with those boxes is, is that you seldom (or perhaps never) listen to al those discs. And what to think of Karajan Complete, a box with 101 discs... )

     

    Enjoy the Pearl Jam shows!

     

     

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    1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Oh yes. I wear my custom in-ear monitors. The sound of concerts is actually much better with 26 dB of passive isolation. 

    The same as the sound of my lawn tractor as I cut the grass using ear plugs!

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    the boxed sets that have eaten away at my retirement in the last year

     

    Ditto on the Coltranes. on vinyl ..

     

    We are in the golden age of remasters, reissues, and box sets but I for one am suffering from a severe case of reissue fatigue. If you follow the Tracking Angle or Analog Planet or any number of other sites they are announcing them daily at sometimes hard to swallow prices. Acoustic Sounds is releasing the 7 disc Steely Dan catalog on 45 rpm vinyl at $150 a pop. I bought the Zappa remaster a while back and now they release yet another set of mostly the same.  I buy mostly vinyl and know this is a digital site, but the same concerns apply. I had to stop.. at least for a while 😧

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    Just now, bbosler said:

     

    Ditto on the Coltranes. on vinyl ..

     

    We are in the golden age of remasters, reissues, and box sets but I for one am suffering from a severe case of reissue fatigue. If you follow the Tracking Angle or Analog Planet or any number of other sites they are announcing them daily at sometimes hard to swallow prices. Acoustic Sounds is releasing the 7 disc Steely Dan catalog on 45 rpm vinyl at $150 a pop. I bought the Zappa remaster a while back and now they release yet another set of mostly the same.  I buy mostly vinyl and know this is a digital site, but the same concerns apply. I had to stop.. at least for a while 😧

    Come on Bruce, the music is the cheapest part of the hobby :~)

     

    Only kidding. I hear you about reissues etc... The beauty of the ones I buy is that there's an Atmos version in there that has never been released and is unavailable anywhere else. Heck, even you can ease up on the purchasing pause for these :~)

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    45 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    The beauty of the ones I buy is that there's an Atmos version in there that has never been released and is unavailable anywhere else.

     

    I know I've said it before but, I just can't choke down a $300 box set just to get the Atmos disc.

    ----The Zappa set for $65.. OK.

    -----DSOTM for $300, not for me, but they sold out quickly so somebody has figured it out 

     

    thanks for the heads up on Fish. New to me too.. I like it

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    I think it's useful to break down the value components here as Chris commented upon for himself. 

     

    1) The base music in its, in most cases, original form. Tracks in the same order based on the original mixes. Often remastered, Sometimes remixed.

     

    2) Alternate channel configurations. Mono -> Stereo -> Surround -> Immersive

     

    3) Outakes, alternate versions from other releases, live versions.

     

    4) Videos, probably live performances in most cases.

     

    5) Supplemental information enhancing understanding and the subsequent listening listening/viewing experience.

     

    6) Gratuitous information, pretty much filler, not adding anything or much other than page space.

     

    7) Decoration -- ebellished packaging beyond what is required to effectively deliver and protect the content for the buyer and subsequent owners/users.

     

    Naturally, the mix of values each individual will place on each of these components will vary wildly. I won't go over mine in this post, but I will say that my outlook has varied steadily over my life. I am a 76-year-old who has been a music lover since I first became aware of music, and a nascent audiophile from perhaps 6-7 years old when my father assempled a mono sustems building a speaker with University/JBL drivers, a Garrard changer and Fisher/Scott electronics. 

     

    I will say that I don't mind good looking stuff, but uniformity in packaging matters a lot to me and my use scenario is capturing files for replay form digital storage, perusing the information, probably just once, and then putting it in storage.

     

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    1 hour ago, firedog said:

    The Beatles' and Harrison box sets were good values. New stereo mixes (mostly), Atmos or 5.1,  bonus tracks that actually add to the understanding of the classic album, and very good books. Not too expensive. 

     

    and the Lennon Plastic Ono Box

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    Still find it strange they didn't do a new stereo remix.

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    4 minutes ago, firedog said:

    Still find it strange they didn't do a new stereo remix.

    From Amazon:

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    I might have to pick this up...

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    3 hours ago, jcbenten said:

    From Amazon:

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    I might have to pick this up...

    remastered, not a new stereo mix.

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    "I'm absolutely cool with expensive boxed sets, but I'm not thrilled with many of them. I value the music, information, photos, and videos in that order."

     

     

    I'm not, not in the least.

    Firstly I'm a retired blue collar guy and don't have that kind of money to blow on set's that contain 80%

    of stuff I have no interest in.

    Secondly,  I'm not a collector not do I have room for all that.  I'm in this for the music.

    Just give me either a reasonably priced stand-alone BD, or preferably a lossless mkv download of the BD, along with a PDF of any booklets, artwork, etc.

    I'm really tired of the labels that are holding a gun to my head just to get the important stuff, the 5.1 or Atmos music files.

     

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    On 9/2/2023 at 9:06 PM, Sal1950 said:

    "I'm absolutely cool with expensive boxed sets, but I'm not thrilled with many of them. I value the music, information, photos, and videos in that order."

     

     

    I'm not, not in the least.

    Firstly I'm a retired blue collar guy and don't have that kind of money to blow on set's that contain 80%

    of stuff I have no interest in.

    Secondly,  I'm not a collector not do I have room for all that.  I'm in this for the music.

    Just give me either a reasonably priced stand-alone BD, or preferably a lossless mkv download of the BD, along with a PDF of any booklets, artwork, etc.

    I'm really tired of the labels that are holding a gun to my head just to get the important stuff, the 5.1 or Atmos music files.

     

     

    C'mon, Sal, the label's VP needs a bigger pool for that 3rd vacation home!

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    Folks are working behind the scenes, albeit without much luck yet, to get more MKV Atmos downloads out there in the marketplace.

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    3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    “Blu-ray disc with hi-res 24/96 audio and Dolby Atmos versions of the album”


    !!!

     

    Lemmee know how it feels to have Mick and Keef surrounding you. 🙂

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    7 hours ago, Jud said:

    Another for you (don't know about immersive - this includes blu-ray hi res). First single "Angry" is on YouTube, liking it.

     

    https://therollingstonesshop.com/products/hackney-diamonds-cd-blu-ray-box-set

    Must say I'm surprised and impressed that they are releasing such a package and at a very reasonable price. Good for them.

    Hopefully it won't be like some of their more recent releases which have way overdone volume compression. 

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