kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, beerandmusic said: or to be said in a different way, all sound can be accurately captured by sampling 44000 times in a second....i call hogwash. Did you even bother to read what he wrote? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: I read what mansr, jabbr, crenca and many others write, but I typically don't read what you write (wink)...you fall in a different category...but i see you still read and reply to me....prefer you didn't. Spacehound, 4est and Shadders 3 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: my belief has not changed that SACD can sound better and can be more accurate, has not changed. In my experience, SACDs usually sound better/different because the mastering is better/different. In other words, it has little to do with the sample rate or format (DSD vs PCM). Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: in most cases the SACD has a cd track from same master.... therefore ? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: so in your opinion, in those cases where they are from same master, the cd track will sound same as sacd track? This has been my experience that there isn't much difference between them. Do you have some examples of Hybrid SACDs where the DSD layer sounds significantly better than the PCM layer and the masterings are identical? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: my use of significant is probably different than yours....my use of significant would likely only be used in comparison of speakers. For SACDs i have listened to, probably would say steely dan gaucho is pretty obvious. Haven't listened to that one. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: assume a person singing a note at 300hz at same time as a 20hz drum...someone suggested you average, ..but does the average really sound exactly like the two unique frequencies occuring at same time? maybe? but a higher sample rate would be better to identify the differences. Averaging is the wrong way to think about it. The two sound waves combine to make one sound wave. Perhaps this video would help: tmtomh and semente 1 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, beerandmusic said: even man can create sound at an "infinite rate"...the plucking of a guitar for instance. the complex waveform has an infinite number of frequencies, at an infinite number of time slices, within it's own frequency range (between 50 and 300hz) that man just is not able to record accurately. rate is the same thing as frequency waveforms do not have an infinite number of frequencies, they have one frequency at any arbitrary point in time Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted February 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, mansr said: Wrong. Frequencies don't exist at points in time. Waveforms have a set of frequencies (possibly only one) over an interval of time. I was trying to make it easier for our dear friend here to imagine a waveform. I'll return to just making snide comments. Spacehound and tmtomh 2 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: does a complex waveform not have multiple frequencies? I believe we can hear more than one frequency at any one time. Did you watch the video I recommended about how complex waveforms are created from simple waveforms? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: Actually, i accepted that the nyquist frequency can capture accurately all possibilities,... but shortly after accepting it, i later rejected it. After thinking about it more, I am back to my original thinking that more samples will bring more accuracy to the point where technology is not able to process without error...i keep thinking about in real life about the infinite possibilities and infinite time slices and the inability to playback or even record with 100% accuracy. It came to me while i was laying in bed and hearing my wife moving around and cooking in the kitchen and outside background noise, and my ears as microphones able to distinguish location and details that i know that NO reproduction is capable of. There is no way that anything less than an infiinite sampling and infinite time is able to reproduce more accurately. No theorem will convince me otherwise. DSD8192 DACs should be available in the next decade or so. Still not infinite sampling but probably close enough for your needs. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted February 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 minute ago, beerandmusic said: I actually think i like GUTB better. You need to increase your sample rate. mansr and tmtomh 2 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, sandyk said: So is the BS that several here appear to be pushing about 16/44.1 being all that's necessary for perfect stereo reproduction. Is anyone here actually saying this? Beery seems to think this is what people are saying but I don't remember anyone actually saying this other than Beery himself. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Bone conduction headsets are used in tactical environments: http://www.safariland.com/special-ops-systems-offline/tabc-iii-tactical-bone-conduction-headset-TABC3_0.html&start=1#sm.000d6tp64yzad4t118q29e4uzoage esldude 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Spacehound said: Not at 57K they aren't Maybe someone needs to create an updated version of the old JS&A Bone Fone. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, sandyk said: Unfortunately, it's fact, and apparently forgotten by many . There were quite a few reports of amplifiers not being able to handle the fairly high level residual HF artifacts. I went very close to ordering a Sony 100K tweeter back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Audio_CD This thread may be of interest: http://sa-cd.net/showthread/31197//y?page=first Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, sandyk said: I found the attached on p.2 of your link of interest as it agrees with my own experiences in this area. I'd be interested in reading Prof. Johnson's research. The Google search you linked to appears to be more about hearing damage from exposure to high frequencies. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: no i didn't....you simply haven't checked all the dictionaries yet....keep looking. Similar to your approach to asking the same question repeatedly until you hear an answer you like? jhwalker 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: sure, if that makes you happy...thanks for your valuable input, moron. I'd report you to Chris for this but I'm not a snitch... Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, beerandmusic said: Chris lets semente keep you in his back pocket to run around making a nuisance to the community... Isn't that insulting Chris, not me? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: best sement keeps kuma in his back pocket or he likely would melt down. I'm having a hard time parsing this sentence. It appears to be another insult but I'm not sure who is being insulted and in what way. Spacehound 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, sandyk said: I consider your comment as Biased, as members like yourself , due to your employment background, have in general ,very little tolerance for, or patience with those who have opposing views to your own, despite this forum being an Audiophile forum where opposing viewpoints are encouraged. This isn't Hydrogen Audio where Subjective reports are not permitted ! What is his employment background? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, sandyk said: Among other things, Don claims to be able to design DACs that are impervious to the problems that afflict most DACs with USB inputs etc. Are you saying he works in the audio field? If so, how does this make him intolerant of the views of others? Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, crenca said: I just noticed this quote in @sandyk sig: "If you can't hear the difference between an original CD and a copy of your CD, you might as well give up your career as a tester. ..... Cookie Marenco" Does that mean what I think it means? I've always thought it meant something other than what Alex thinks it means. Perhaps @cookiemarenco herself can tell us. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, sandyk said: Perhaps you have a highly selective memory loss, as this has already been answered several times already in the affirmative. Thanks for digging this out. By "a copy of your CD", it is unclear to me whether she is talking about a physical copy of a stamped CD, to a CD-R for example, or a rip of a CD. I'd also be interested in knowing whether her thinking has changed in this area in the seven years since she posted this. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
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