USB audio cracked... finally!

[PeterSt]

8 minutes ago, barrows said:

When I get a LUSH cable here I may choose to re-engage here with some listening impressions.

 

@barrows See you day after tomorrow !

 

Regards,

Peter

 

[PeterSt]

Wouldn't it be possible to go elsewhere with this ?

 

15 minutes ago, manisandher said:

I would try SFS=1 vs. SFS=120

 

Mani, please cut this crap. My example is a good one and this won't even work (system will be too slow and no Straight Contiguous stuff anywhere and surely also no license to solve it.

 

Take this to somewhere I won't see it. OK ?

 

[PeterSt]

4 minutes ago, manisandher said:

Huh?

 

Nothing "huh", Think.

 

Edit : or just read what I just said. Your settings can not work. That is, for Mansr.

 

And it is offtopic as h*ll, but alas your thread.

[PeterSt]

Mani, please ... READ. YOUR SETTINGS CAN-NOT WORK.

 

You aren't deaf, are you ?

 

You imply a million more questions (because what you pose can't work) and you do this in an unrelated thread.

 

Let's turn it around ... anything wrong with what I suggested ?

Yes, according to mansr there is. READ.

 

So cut this crap.

[PeterSt]

3 minutes ago, mansr said:

Why don't you suggest something that will work?

 

I F*ing did so. Didn't I ?

And exactly the two opposite values you asked for. But I suppose I am in your ignore list.

Or at least I should be.

 

Or there is another misunderstanding, but I certainly don't get it.

[PeterSt]

Mani ... (and other just the same for some clarification) ...

 

It will be quite impossible with an SFS of 1.00 to have glitch-free operation which is exactly what mansr would need for what he aims for. So he won't be having "bit perfect" playback. And thus nothing works.

So what you imply now is that all the SpeedRacers in the world will blame YOU of talking mansr into a license which is exactly what should not happen.

And so it goes on and on and on.

 

Maybe you forgot when it started to happen that the SFS could be lower than 2.00 for glitch-free playback. Well, it was most certainly not in Normal OS.

 

So, think a bit or otherwise don't interfere with my own example in the first place. OR do it somewhere else so I don't need to witness the totally unrelated ... yes, C... .

 

2 minutes ago, manisandher said:

Dunno. But at least any conspiracy theories of collusion between Peter and me should be out of the window now

 

I was thinking just that, 5 minutes ago ! 

 

[PeterSt]

Just now, PeterSt said:

which is exactly what mansr would need for what he aims for.

 

Or maybe you did not get that ?

[PeterSt]

3 minutes ago, manisandher said:

So why didn't you just say "compare 120 with 4, and not with 1 for these reasons..."?

 

Don't twist matters around. Why did you come up with 1 while I came up with 4 ?

Worse : an independent person did (Robert).

 

But I see, you want to be right on something tonight. Could be fun. Just you and mansr.

[PeterSt]

24 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

It would involve significant preparation of a Windows machine (which I imagine you could do with some reading on the Phasure forum), plus a license (which you would have to sort out with Peter).  Otherwise, at least so far as my subjective impressions suggest, Peter would be correct - the differences would be minimized, so as he says, this wouldn't "work" for you.  But frankly, I cannot see any regime under which you would feel these settings changes *would* work for you to hear differences, as the time to make the changes would be far too long.

 

Now THAT makes sense and that was the gist of my post.

 

Can I now behave again ?

um ... oh ... 

[PeterSt]

3 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

It appears that Peter is taking lessons from Trump on how to treat friends who disagree with him. 

 

Anything else to twist around ? 

[PeterSt]

Btw, about politics ...

Shouldn't any thread deal with that for a fair bit ?

[PeterSt]

2 minutes ago, manisandher said:

Peter, I didn't see your original post where you pasted the yellow screenshot. I only saw Jud's post suggesting changing SFS.

 

Well, then we state that mansr also did not see it and all is fine as it was. At least I hope so.

Peace (and a hug of course).

 

I'm in the fridge as of now. And with apologies for the rant. Too many cables !

haha

[PeterSt]

4 minutes ago, manisandher said:

On 14-7-2017 at 5:15 PM, manisandher said:

Peter’s brain seems to be wired differently to most of the rest of us…

 

 

OK, too many wires then.

 

[PeterSt]

All,

 

In retrospective I can see that I myself I am using the Lush since June 21 (2017). This is thus 6 weeks or so.

I recall that someone asked asked about breaking in and I was at day 30. At that time I thought "odd, because things seems to change right here, so let's keep in touch with everything".

A week later I thought to report it, because it became more obvious, but still non confident.

 

Here we are, August 10 (still 2017). And I am confident to say :

Things change. It should be at day 30 or so (deduct 5 days for personal reasons like the system being off all together) and the change is hard to describe, but it should be mere about the "warm piss" which was referred to earlier today without too much emphasis, as the liquid seems to exhibit more and more as in Terminator III (this is metal liquid).

 

Additionally (seems contra dictionary) I think you could say that the sound gets more and more to the point, WHILE at the same time it gets more lush.

I am really not sure myself how this combines but I just spent 3-4 hours with explicit listening to this, without a good answer.

 

Anyone ? 

[PeterSt]

40 minutes ago, elcorso said:

 

Mine is 18 days old of continue music  play, but isn't a matter of burn in, but growing up from the first day: music now is closer to my ears-brain system !

 

This seems like "just a funny remark" but I feel Roch is serious here. I have something similar and this is also how I can't explain it really (yet).

 

I am used to play the same music repeatedly, say once per month, because I am always working on improvements. Since the Lush this stopped because of no time to work on improvements and so it happens that I play more and more different music which I might play once a year only. This music is thus more unfamiliar to me and it is right there where I myself am frowning about what the h*ck actually happens because it sounds so realistic (the regularly played music is just too much known to me and there it does not occur).

 

It really seems a brain thing but I can't figure out how it works. So Roch, i you were serious there, I tend to agree.

Peter

[PeterSt]

2 hours ago, t_ram said:

Any chance orders that were placed yesterday get shipped before your vacation? I literally just found out about your USB cable yesterday and immediately ordered. If not, I understand.

 

Hi t_ram - you are on the list of the attempts to do so. 

For us the crucial day was yesterday with in between all jobs pushing out two DACs, two PCs, a few returns of failing components, purchasing of new and what all not that made us dizzy. But this now has all been done and we can oversee the back log.

So count on it ! 

[PeterSt]

21 minutes ago, lateboomer said:

May I know what is the ideal length of Lush usb cable that performs the best?

 

Hi there lateboomer - By far most out are 70cm and 100cm and also maybe 15 of 150cm (and maybe 2 of 200cm and one of 300cm which latter for sure has not been received yet because it was shipped yesterday). IOW, it is fair to say that 70, 100 and 150cm should all sound "as good" or the same etc.

 

Price of 70cm and 100cm is the same so you can choose what you think is best for you.

Thanks, Peter

[PeterSt]

Dear people,

 

I hope this message finds you by the time you need it, which should be in rare occasions but it can happen. I am referring to your Lush not working out in your system, you obviously giving us an email - and normally I would respond right away about next steps. On a side note, until now this happened two times and thus it can happen. Now :

 

I will be experiencing the for me rare and quite "impossible" situation to end up in a country without internet and email. This will last for a few weeks. Never worry about not receiving any answers, as I just won't be seeing any sort of email or forum messages, etc.

 

I hope that by the time you need me/us, someone will be able to link to this post and take away your worries.

Regards - Peter

[PeterSt]

13 minutes ago, elcorso said:

and leave some black flowers in Fidel's tomb in my name

 

13 minutes ago, elcorso said:

Just yesterday I was visiting Luis (the other Lush owner in the Rainforest).

 

Can you imagine what happened over here when I told that someone named Luis C. from the hood, ordered a Lush ?

"He must be hiding", I said.

LOL

[PeterSt]

20 minutes ago, Barry in Calgary said:

My Lush USB cable arrived today

 

Hi Barry - this is amazing. Can you tell me ... not any hold ups by customs ? I only need that information ("Yes a bit because ..." or "No"). So I tried something and it seems that it worked ?

[PeterSt]

41 minutes ago, Barry in Calgary said:

 

So I decided to reread the entire thread again.  A couple of hours later based on what I learned (by reading more carefully), I decided to try replacing the first Curious USB cable in the chain (0.4 M), th one between the BDP2 and the Intona.

 

Hmm ... Maybe I missed it myself, but I think it would be hard to find what you discovered.  I would have derived this from the available data :

 

No Regen Amber in the chain at all.

But this is just theory. So did you try that ?

And if this is not for the better(no Regen Amber), I'd say this could be new information.

 

Btw, I too am thinking twice now (uh-oh). So there is something that makes your decision perfectly logic, but it is hard to imagine that you found that "data" in the thread. Still without Regen Amber it should be better. Should be ...

 

Thank you very much for your report !

Peter

 

Edit, PS: I must emphasize that we are talking about the Regen Amber. Not the Green and most certainly not the ISO. For them different rules apply (in the chain).

[PeterSt]

Hi Barry,

 

2 hours ago, Barry in Calgary said:

I believe earlier in the chain of responses you gave what you thought would be the optimum placement of a Lush cable, before or after a regenerator.  You thought before a regenerator would be optimum.

 

I don't recall saying that. And if I did, I must have been drunk (this happens).

Additionally, I'd say that no Regen-Amber (or Green for that matter) was discussed in the whole thread. OK, now it has. 

I think there has only be talk about the ISO Regen and on estimate I have told to put the Lush behind it, including reasoning. However, the reasoning came after the fact that people did it like that, possibly austinpop ahead (see his last post and the post he linked to).

 

2 hours ago, Barry in Calgary said:

 When I get an ISO Regen (back ordered), I will place the Lush before it,

 

So ... you can do that, but this is not what people experience as the best. Additionally, technically it would not be the best thing to do. However, if your experience is to that it will be better to have the Lush and the ISO Regen behind it, it would be new and I think people will be interested in the why of that. Of course in your case it currently includes the Intona as well, with my remark that I don't think that this is currently the best sounding USB Isolator. That would be our own Phisolator (which can not be bought separately) or else the ISO Regen.

 

2 hours ago, Barry in Calgary said:

tomorrow I will remove the Amber Regen and the VBUS2 Isolator. and run the Lush into the Intona and then into the DAC

 

Here too, I would put the Lush behind the Intona. BUT now this is just a hunch (the Intona regenerates quited differently than either Uptone Regen).

 

Anyway ... have fun !

Regards,

Peter

[PeterSt]

9 minutes ago, Barry in Calgary said:

I just spent another 2 hours playing around with cables etc.

 

Great report Barry. Thank you for this. I am sure this will be helpful to others.

Best regards,

Peter

[PeterSt]

And @Barry in Calgary, please don't forget that you started your judgment right out of the box (with the notice that I can see that others give it some burn-in time). So maybe don't waste your time all toooo much on the comparisons too soon. I see myself, for example, how the highs get more sparkling, which is exactly your first "complaint" of that lacking when in the wrong position. So this may all change in 2 or 3 days.

[PeterSt]

Theo, I know the answer and sadly it is No. The shipping date of your Lush is set to Sept. 6, due the 8th.

So at least you are one of the first after our coming back. 

 

Nobody needs to worry that their order (or money for that matter) gets lost. Also, the sequence of ordering will be maintained for production and shipping sequence.

 

Thank you Theo !

Peter