MQA is Vaporware

[BigWilliam]

After reading all posts to about page 100, then skimming most of the rest of the pages over the last day or so...I am shocked at how ridiculously captured audiophile press are. Especially high end. So shocked i felt compelled to post this.

 

Why do any of you take them seriously? Or anything in this industry really? This has got to be the slimiest industry I have participated in. And I consume pornography, your average porn producer lies less.

 

Thousands upon thousands of perfect lossless files stored in the format they were made on a 100 dollar HD and they want to move to some other standard to make upsampling easier? ?????????????????

 

These boomers don't even understand why CD player is not superior to a rip of that CD (i'm 30)

 

The obvious analogous group, videophile press, are like the squeakiest clean people I have ever seen next to the snakes in this thread.

 

If this wasn't just rich guys playing around I'd say the state needs to step in here and end all this insanity. This is beyond buyer beware. This is fraud, and this thread is teh most obvious embodiment of it.

 

I don't know what the fuck stereophile is. But people my god people do not link to it, do not discuss it openly, make up a nickname so they get nothing from you. They were rightly smug because in the end their job is to sell ads or subs or whatever they do there. And if promoting MQA drives interest in their site well they're winning and you're proving their decision correct

 

No for profit businesses job is to tell you the truth. THat applies to youtube reviewers as well. They only need to tell the truth as far as they will be held accountable by CONSUMERS. Not people. Just whining at them while promoting their business isn't gonna do it.

 

edit - and of course marry christmas, even teh shills.

 

 

[BigWilliam]

2 hours ago, daverich4 said:

When Tim Cook took over Apple it was worth just under $400 Billion and now it’s only worth $2 Trillion+. What a failure. Couldn’t lead his way out of a paper bag. 

 

I mean beyond managing to control his greed and only cash in on dongles instead of user data...

 

He did well for apple

 

But what has changed with apple since Jobs died that required any real leadership?

 

He's just running off job's choices. And monetizing dongles, he really know how to sell peripherals

[BigWilliam]

5 hours ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

Does anybody have any idea how much the audio press is still clinging to MQA? A search on Stereophile.com brings up so many gratuitous mentions, and embarrassing declarations of love, it boggles the mind. The press is where MQA seems to have any relevance.

 

Yes, the usual suspects, the charlatan JVS, Atkinson and his go to canned "more space around the instruments" line, and the rest of the tone deaf MQA marketers, er writers. And we also get the feigned disappointment when a digital product does not "do MQA", no blue light for comfort and good feelings. No cute logo.

 

Funny to note MQA got most of it's push and coverage after 2016, the era of Anti-Science, Anti-Fact, Alternative Realities, and charlatanism.

 

 

 

 

 

I see people asking about MQA dacs  all over this forum....?

 

People openly admitting they use tidal with an excuse of "discovery' even tho spotify has better discovery......

 

There is a german guy asking about MQA dacs and instead of "don't buy this you traitor" people are giving him suggestions.

 

People need to sneer at anyone who even mentions Tidal use.

 

 

 

[BigWilliam]

1 hour ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Apple Silicon

 

That was probably part of jobs plan too, they've been trying to control every part of their supply chain for a longggg time

[BigWilliam]

56 minutes ago, mocenigo said:

 

You do not make 1.6Trillion in dongles.

 

What requires leadership? Two things from the top of my head.

1. Sacking a resident god like Ive that was (without Jobs's control) favouring form over function leading us to the failure of the butterfly keyboard and some MacBooks that needed two mobo and three keyboard replacements in 3 years. 

2. Walking back on keyboard design instead of claiming "you are typing on it wrong" as Jobs would have done.

3. Driving a transition from Intel to Apple Silicon (you know which architecture it is).

4. More openness: after the last announcements some engineers were allowed to talk about their contributions on social media – something completely unthinkable at the time of Steve Jobs.

 

and I could go on, but you prove there is one thing that is more annoying than apple fanboys: apple bashers.

 

 Roberto

 

Dongles, chargers, and earpods? Oh yea you'll pad those numbers. That's his major contribution.

 

Those are the biggest earners he came up with

 

Mac, app store, iphone, ipad all the same.

We're going green so we will no longer include chargers, genius.

 

The pods alone my god

 

[BigWilliam]

7 hours ago, R1200CL said:

He did manage to put an end to SACD according to this. 
 

So what would be a clever way to get rid of MQA ?

(if it’s a goal).

 

 

Other than legislation I can't really think of a clever way....

 

Just simply do not buy the MQA dacs, they will see no one in the market can even use the format. It can never be a real threat without most people having MQA hardware to decode

[BigWilliam]

4 hours ago, mocenigo said:

 

Apple's earnings for Q1 2020:

• $55.96 billion: iPhone
• $12.72 billion: Services
• $7.16 billion: Mac
• $10.01 billion: Wearables, Home, and Accessories
• $5.98 billion: iPad

I would say that the major contribution is properly driving the services and keeping the iPhone competitive in a quite crowded market with little space for premium devices. For instance making security a market differentiator (ask yourself why security experts like to break iPhones AND also choose iPhones as personal devices) and making the Apple Watch a training assistant and health device (Jobs and Ive wanted it to be only a luxury item). Compare the average prices of wearables and other accessories and you will easily get where the bulk of those $10.01B comes from.

 

There is only one thing more annoying than apple fan boys: apple bashers.

 

 

Yea they dominated that market before he died

 

Nothing has changed

 

Security experts don't choose iphones, tech savvy people do not like the apple ecosystem, what are you talking about?

 

Security experts at your business chose iphones because that's what their bosses wanted. And that's waht they're familiar with. 

 

I worked at apple as a tier 1 work at home rep for a couple years when i was younger. I get them.

 

He hasn't changed a thing but their thick skin in selling the peripherals.

[BigWilliam]

1 hour ago, mocenigo said:

 

Which one of the markets I mentioned? Some are new,

 

 

If you say so...

 

 

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You have totally no clue at all.

 

I am a tech savvy person. And I chose to stay in the apple ecosystem.

In fact, if you enter an Arm or a Google office, companies which are mostly about development and computer architecture, you'll see that the laptops are at least 50% apple ones. 

 

By "Security experts" I do not mean the low level IT folks that have to plug and unplug cables and bring the monitors to the engineers and architects. I refer to the *researchers* (of which I also am one) that analyse security problems, break systems to notify the vendors in order for the latter to fix their product in the hope the bad guys have not done the same in the meantime, and to prevent them doing the same, as well as find mitigations. A large chunk of them sometimes even openly declare "I do not want an apple main computer but my phone is an iPhone because of higher security wrt the rest". This is a fact. Go to a security conference or a cryptography conference and look at what computers you see.

 

"tech savvy people do not like the apple ecosystem" is one of the most ridiculous pieces of BS one can ever think of writing. True, many tech savvy people loathe apple, but generalising the way you did is quite a bit of an exaggeration.

 

 

Actually, we can choose between a PC or a Mac, between an android company phone or an iPhone, and again.

 

 

Ok, Apple asks their employees to use Apple devices. Duh. It is not forced everywhere at all companies. In high tech companies where there is a choice of platforms (when there is none, it is usually a windows machine and an android phone) a sizeable chunk of the technical staff (not talking about design and marketing!) chooses apple products. And another big chunk a windows machine or a linux one.

 

 

Apple has always sold peripherals.

I understand you are a disgruntled former employee. Cool down and remember: apple bashers are the only category even more annoying than apple fanboys.

 

To quote Tim Cook, people often mistake innovation for change. Innovation can be something that you do not even see. Like the M1. Like the extremely strong microarchitectural push in their CPU designs. The Apple Watch and the AirPods contain a lot of innovation. And these are in the top 10 "The Verge" list of most innovative products of the last decade.  Content is a new push, and they have all the hw/sw ecosystem to support it. 

 

I stop here, because we are off topic. But I friendly recommend you to stop as well, you are making a fool of yourself.

 

 

They have stopped bundling chargers

 

What are you insane/ lol. They have managed to get pepole on BT music even tho it's inferior to a 3.5 and a decent dac.

 

Those are his major contributions to revenue. Thick skin in milking consumers

 

Again i worked for them, used to have guys call up and complain all the time. No one tech savvy wants their boss on an apple product all things being equal. They are forced to because their bosses are incompetent. Senator's IT guys calling and whining about the native email client...hahah.

 

IT nerds and apple do not mix, they're closed gardens. No one who wants to use the hardware they own likes that.

 

No one cares how much you've spent on apple products. If you like their UI and are totally incompetent i'm sure you gain something from it....

 

But anyone in IT should not be.

 

Typical audiophile, trying to defend the undefendable. lol

 

No doubt because you have wasted absurd amounts of money on apple hardware for no real gain beyond the status symbol and familiarity with the UI

[BigWilliam]

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Stop the non MQA talk. It's getting old. 

 

You need to do a better job of taking away the off topic comments and not just randomly nuking them

 

There is a point some one brought up apple, that comment should have been removed. You have to start form the original off topic reply. Not decide after others are committed.

 

And now you're confused why people are referencing it?

 

And my comments had nothing to do with Apple?

 

I'll say it again, conviviality and snake oil are interconnected.

 

Your demure demeanor is why people get away with selling all this ridiculous snake oil. And not just you, everyone worried about condescension and sneering. Absurd

 

Apple, laugh at them

 

MQA, laugh at tehm

 

That's how you identify snake oil. If you're unwilling to do your part socially don't be surprised when people exhibit behavior that is not good for the group. Like buying into MQA dacs*

 

At least buying into apple's ecosystem isn't for the most part hurting the rest of us.