erniejade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 12x17 the bass can be nice in that room with the kef. In my room, I have a 2 foot deep 6 foot long cutout on the 11 foot wall that I call a bass suckout. The sub with my small of a room should be overkill if it wasn't for the suckout! Arcus 1 Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
Arcus Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Okay, that explains it. On that note, I was listening to something earlier today and decided it might benefit from the sub so I plugged it again, played around, and may have found a setting I like. These speakers continue to amaze with or w/o a sub! Link to comment
erniejade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Agreed. For the $, they are darn good. well, good enoigh for me to sell off the Mcintosh mc402, Joule Electra LAP-150A pre on down to the speakers and cables and replace all of that with the KEF. I keep flipping back and forth on the crossover. 75 hz and 85 hz. Classic rock on the 85hz setting kind of gives it more of a kick from the sub but with jazz, 75hz. I did try 80 but for some reason, I didn't care for it as much but my room is challenged. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
MikeJazz Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 22/03/2017 at 10:53 PM, wgb113 said: My pair in the wild...these things rock! what a wonderful room! Love it! http://www.computeraudiophile.com/members/mikejazz/ funded this campain: http://igg.me/at/geekpulseaudio/x/5216671 Link to comment
gbryant Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 My wish is that KEF produces software for my MAC.... I would rather use that than the iPad app Link to comment
erniejade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Can you go to iTunes and try loading it on your MAC? I have it on my ipad and cell phone both but having tried it on the home computer. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
http404 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Apologies if this has been asked and answered before, but can the LS50w volume only be controlled via the KEF app / physical buttons, or does software volume control via an NAA (microRendu / sMS-200) work as well? Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, http404 said: Apologies if this has been asked and answered before, but can the LS50w volume only be controlled via the KEF app / physical buttons, or does software volume control via an NAA (microRendu / sMS-200) work as well? Anything attached by optical doesn't work for volume control. Not sure about the microrendu but I bet it won't work.. I'm using a Logitech Harmony 650 remote with mine since I can't stand the standard remote. Link to comment
http404 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 microRendu and sMS-200 connect via USB only Link to comment
gbryant Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Volume controls Wireless / wired network = software and speaker Bluetooth = software and speaker PC input (USB) = software and speaker Optical = speaker only RCA = preamp and speaker Link to comment
Arcus Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm using a Logitech Transporter as a Roon endpoint connected via optical and I can control it's volume from the Roon app. Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, http404 said: microRendu and sMS-200 connect via USB only Oh right,,,,and the other end is ethernet? Good way to make a Roon endpoint with these speakers. Link to comment
http404 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, Arcus said: I'm using a Logitech Transporter as a Roon endpoint connected via optical and I can control it's volume from the Roon app. Very cool, thanks! Link to comment
http404 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, DarwinOSX said: Oh right,,,,and the other end is ethernet? Good way to make a Roon endpoint with these speakers. Exactly - especially since the microRendu is designed small and light enough to just suspend from a short USB cable such as a Curious Regen link. Link to comment
Arcus Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I can also use the Roon app to control the volume of my Raspberry Pi /Hifiberry combo connected to the speakers. Hopefully, Roon support will be added soon so we can eliminate the need for any of these other devices. Link to comment
erniejade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I just use the nice small remote that comes with the speakers for volume. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
Arcus Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 LOL. Yes, that is the simplest option and I find myself defaulting to it most of the time. Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 45 minutes ago, erniejade said: I just use the nice small remote that comes with the speakers for volume. It's a terrible remote. The buttons are awful and not backlit. Cheap creaky plastic. It really is an afterthought and doesn't do justice to these speakers. Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, http404 said: Exactly - especially since the microRendu is designed small and light enough to just suspend from a short USB cable such as a Curious Regen link. I've been looking at this and the Bluseound Node 2 which was also give me Roon AND MQA through Tidal. Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Arcus said: I can also use the Roon app to control the volume of my Raspberry Pi /Hifiberry combo connected to the speakers. Hopefully, Roon support will be added soon so we can eliminate the need for any of these other devices. You use the Pi as a Roon endpoint? Connected how? Link to comment
http404 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Arcus said: I can also use the Roon app to control the volume That's what I'm after - since I'm already doing everything else through Roon, controlling volume at the same time is more convenient than digging for a remote control. Link to comment
Arcus Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, DarwinOSX said: You use the Pi as a Roon endpoint? Connected how? I installed PiCoreplayer on the RPi and then enabled Squeezebox Support in Roon. I also have an RPi in the living room that controls ceiling speakers around the main floor of the house and another that controls speakers in the backyard. Roon will allow you to sync the same devices so I can have everything playing when we have a bunch of people over. Link to comment
erniejade Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 15 hours ago, DarwinOSX said: I've been looking at this and the Bluseound Node 2 which was also give me Roon AND MQA through Tidal. I tried a node2 for about a week and returned it. To me, the soundstage shrunk several feet and it sounded constricted. This followed using the built in dac or my external dac. My wife and I both agreed the laptop going through a w4s recovery to the dac sounded much better. For the money, it is a good unit but, if you want something that is a little better for the same money especially using an external dac , try the Aries mini. You can put a hard drive inside of it, output from USB right to the Kef, supports tidal but, you need to have a Mac product to run the software. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
erniejade Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I almost forgot, if you do go with the Mini, try an upgraded power supply. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
DarwinOSX Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, erniejade said: I tried a node2 for about a week and returned it. To me, the soundstage shrunk several feet and it sounded constricted. This followed using the built in dac or my external dac. My wife and I both agreed the laptop going through a w4s recovery to the dac sounded much better. For the money, it is a good unit but, if you want something that is a little better for the same money especially using an external dac , try the Aries mini. You can put a hard drive inside of it, output from USB right to the Kef, supports tidal but, you need to have a Mac product to run the software. Thanks, I think if you use the RCA from the Node 2 to the Kefs it uses the Kef dac but then you get the digital to analog conversion. I thought about the Aries mini but I feel that anything I get has to support MQA too. If the Aries mini connects by usb which dac does it use? It's own or the Kefs? Link to comment
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