Mytek new dac Brooklyn.

[Sunya]

So you now know SDIF-3, that was fast.

 

Huh?

[ted_b]

Huh?

 

Sorry, was making a poor joke. You had asked to be educated on SDIF-3, and I offered, then you pushed back on my explanation. I said the Brooklyn shows that the SPDIF RCA inputs are also labeled for SDIF-3 (i.e DSD Left and DSD Right, which are nomenclatures for the single channel SDIF-3 inputs, NOT for DoP..which is stereo SPDIF...or AES/EBU or USB, for that matter..no one labels for DoP) so either they give you a BNC adapter and a toggle mechanism (to toggle between dual SPDIFs and SDIF-3), or they simply silkscreened the back panel to be ready for either (doubt it, since they don't mention different versions of the Brooklyn like they mentioned when offering the Stereo-192 DSD dac).

[Sunya]

You had asked to be educated on SDIF-3, and I offered, then you pushed back on my explanation.

 

I didn't ask to be educated on SDIF-3, I only asked where are the inputs.

[ted_b]

I didn't ask to be educated on SDIF-3, I only asked where are the inputs.

 

Oops, you're right. My bad.

[ph_hirez]

Re: DSD256 & PCM 24b, 384 kHz on Mac OSX.

 

I run DSD128 DoP and PCM 24/384 straight out over USB 3.0 on my MBP Retina.

 

The issue is not data rate capability but, instead, the OSX 'App Nap' battery drain app spanker. The OS puts the Broadcom 20702 USB hub to sleep and the core-audio-bypassing app (Audirvana Plus) has to wake it up. When the number of wakeup events exceed the limit, spin dumps can occur like:

 

"process Audirvana Plus[2934] caught causing excessive wakeups. Observed wakeups rate (per sec): 178; Maximum permitted wakeups rate (per sec): 150; Observation period: 300 seconds; Task lifetime number of wakeups: 45001"

 

The AP+ app aserts "App Nap disabled' by default, but I find it helps to send:

 

"sudo defaults write com.audirvana.Audirvana-Plus NSAppSleepDisabled -bool YES"

 

All of this is convolved with the "com.Chord.driver.Cypress384 (1.0.55)" USB driver disaster (M2Tech Nova Blowout) which should not be an issue with driverless versions of Chord's newer DACs and/or with OSX 10.10 & 10.11 OS releases. Have to wait to see.

 

Could also be Apple moving around the KEXT Exceptions Contents directory location....

 

Main point? Battery life optimization aggressive removes user/signer control over real time I/O.

 

This may be where the Sound Quality battle is fought. It is not BW, it is power!

[prognostic]

After a lot of research (soul searching) I settled on the Brooklyn DAC as my next weapon of choice in the audiophile war. I got on the pre-order for two units today. I have never owned / nor listened to the Mytek Stereo 192 but it has always appealed to me, primarily because of its overall performance for its particular form factor (side by side DACs in 1u rack space). Hoping the Brooklyn DAC will be an extension of that (with some of the translated Manhatten tech) and I will start tapping something pretty close to that sweet spot of what I personally have been looking for out of my DACs and overall setup. Two of these should yield some nice tests in various configurations - will also be testing some unique configs of the Brooklyn in combo with the Mutec MC-3+ USB.

 

-prog

[Totsipaki]

An interesting Interview in ..polish..( thank god for google translate, a mandatory asset in this case)

https://www.infoaudio.pl/artykul/278,michal-jurewicz-prosto-z-manhattanu-na-brooklyn-wywiad

 

See here the acoppanying video, mostly useful to polish speakers but visually interesting with nice closeups of the Brooklyn.

 

THat little thing is getting more and more interesting!.. I can't wait for the next two weekw when according to the retailer i will finally have it !!!

 

Finally another highly polosih article here https://www.infoaudio.pl/artykul/279,mytek-digital-tworzymy-brooklyn-w-warszawie-wywiad (google chrome is recommended as well)

[gmplus]

An interesting Interview in ..polish.

Interesting interview, it shows (on youtube) that the Brooklyn

is a little better sonically than 192 model (words of Mr. Jurewicz),

thus, if someone expected fireworks, then will be disappointed,

top model is still Manhattan

[Totsipaki]

I don't think that anyone in their right mind expects the 2000$ product of a company to be better than the 5000$ model of the same company. What I read is that the Brooklyn will secretly compete with 10$ devices

(words of Mr. Jurewicz) and to be honest I think that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

The most important thing is that someone must like those products extreme clarity and faithfullness to the original recording.

After owning the 192 dac for three years i ended up addicted to that sound. Others didn't like it but you can't keep everybody happy that's life and the hobby's reality.

 

What I was hoping for was the sound of the 192 improved in the treble where the older dac had a slight but listenable harshness mostly audible with bad recordings. Having personally contacted the blogger whose report was posted by me in this thread a few posts ago I was made to understand that as a fan of the 192 there is absolutely no way I would't dig the Brooklyn As to his ears it is a big step up from the 192 in every way and to think that he was not a fan of the 192.

 

I was prepared to settle just for an improved dac in practical terms (with no apparent sound improvement) as the biggest drawback of the 192 is that it had begun to show it's technological limits like lack of OTG support, latency issues with extremely high bitrates of which some are not supported, idiosyncratic usb receiver for OSX which would crash the computer from time to time or give me a hard time to set it, lack of driverless USB 2.0 Implementation and etc.

It appears that the new dac is not just a modernized or more practical (meaning driverless) version of the old one. It is also a better dac and for the price considering I was very happy with the 192's performance I am more than happy and totally impatient!...

[gmplus]

I don't think that anyone in their right mind expects the 2000$ product of a company to be better than the 5000$ model of the same company.

That is point, but big plus is the ability to work with extenal power suppy,

this could enhance the quality of sonic, minus - no firewall interface

[Totsipaki]

That is point, but big plus is the ability to work with extenal power suppy,

this could enhance the quality of sonic, minus - no firewall interface

 

Another very exciting thing that caught my attwntion reading the translated interview and article is the mention in an upcoming portable product more affordable for the young people that will probably be announced in CES in January.

 

Man 2016 is going to be hot..

[conentric]

Here are some new pictures of what seems to be the final retail version of the Brooklyn : Mytek Brooklyn DAC/Headphone Amp/Preamp at Music Direct

[Totsipaki]

Here are some new pictures of what seems to be the final retail version of the Brooklyn : Mytek Brooklyn DAC/Headphone Amp/Preamp at Music Direct

 

Can't wait to get my hands on mine. A listen to many of the cimpetitors in the local audio video show made me sure I made the right choice! All that remains now is to wait untill the 23rd of December. .

[Lee Henley]

Anybody heard this Dac yet in their own system

[Totsipaki]

This dac will start shipping around christmass as It was available only as pre-order untill December 1st. I will try to post my impressions as soon as I can. The date I have for delivery is December 23.

[Sam Lord]

This looks like an extremely useful DAC/pre, great for professional and home use and love the included *optional* DC power! Mytek always has great value.

[bmoura]

This looks like an extremely useful DAC/pre, great for professional and home use and love the included *optional* DC power! Mytek always has great value.

 

Yes, and their current Stereo 192-DSD DAC is on sale for $1,095. Also a great value!

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[russelltsay]

This dac will start shipping around christmass as It was available only as pre-order untill December 1st. I will try to post my impressions as soon as I can. The date I have for delivery is December 23.

Looks like can't hear it before Xmas...

Mr.Totsipaki how do you know your dispatch date? I also hv preorder one, but hear nothing from Mytek after my several emails.

[Totsipaki]

I am sorry to hear that.

 

I have been given this date from my local retailer who explained that It was very difficult to secure some units for the customers who have preordered from Late October - Start Of November. The next batch will be on Late January they said.

 

 

I guess the demand for this unit tests the production ability of Mytek.

 

You should start a support ticket, they always answer over there and very promptly most of the times.

[Xin]

I am sorry to hear that.

 

I have been given this date from my local retailer who explained that It was very difficult to secure some units for the customers who have preordered from Late October - Start Of November. The next batch will be on Late January they said.

 

 

I guess the demand for this unit tests the production ability of Mytek.

 

You should start a support ticket, they always answer over there and very promptly most of the times.

 

Hi,

I've seen that you're a Mytek Fan like me

I've Mytek 192 DSD since 2013.

Do you know if they buy back it when you buy a Brooklyn ?

[Totsipaki]

I dont think so. But You can sell It for a good price very easily. That's what I did and I sold mine amazingly fast for 800eur..

[knopi]

On the link below (middle of the page) you can read some listening feedback of the Brooklyn Dac. I contacted the author. He was told that two 9018K2M dac chips are implemented, sweet!..

Click the link below

New York Audio Show 2015 Recap | Metal-Fi Rant

 

The autor is quite funny HD650 is one of the warmest headphone out there so I guess hardly to know if there would be some treble shrillness.

 

The Brooklyn DAC is very nice but almost nobody hear it and dac will listen and not look at him. 192 DSD did not have the most popular feedback. So I will wait a little on experiences. But the Brooklyn looks very very promising to me. My budget is 2500 euro and the most probably will order it because nothing in this price range got my interest as this only one dac which is sold out and hardly seen from second hand.

[firedog]

The autor is quite funny HD650 is one of the warmest headphone out there so I guess hardly to know if there would be some treble shrillness.

 

The Brooklyn DAC is very nice but almost nobody hear it and dac will listen and not look at him. 192 DSD did not have the most popular feedback. So I will wait a little on experiences. But the Brooklyn looks very very promising to me. My budget is 2500 euro and the most probably will order it because nothing in this price range got my interest as this only one dac which is sold out and hardly seen from second hand.

 

Not sure where you looked, but the 192 DSD came in for almost universal praise in reviews and in forum feedbacks. I saw one very negative review on one forum. Other than that, I think all the professional reviews ranged from positive to extremely positive, and the vast majority of user feedback was also positive.

Obviously, there will always be some people who won't like a product.

 

From what I've been told by dealers, the Brooklyn is a definite step up from the 192 DSD, both in DAC and in preamp quality.

[bmoura]

Not sure where you looked, but the 192 DSD came in for almost universal praise in reviews and in forum feedbacks. I saw one very negative review on one forum. Other than that, I think all the professional reviews ranged from positive to extremely positive, and the vast majority of user feedback was also positive.

 

And now that the Stereo-192 DSD is going for $1,095, it's hard to beat at that price.

[russelltsay]

It's been 10 days after Mytek announced Brooklyn is starting to ship. Wondering if anyone have it on hand?