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Which should i buy if i am ok with the price of either (consider the price is the same for all 3, even if they aren't)

 

1. TEAC UD-501 (free Teac HR dsd player)

2. IFI MICRO (no dsd player)

3. KORG DS DAC 100 (free audiogate dsd player)

 

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Don't know your preferences on connectivity, space consumption, design & materials used, orvother stuff.

For me the Teac UD-501 is a big win in my system as it easily outperforms more expensive DACs.

I am using Audirvana+ and not the original Teac player software on my system.

 

Myself being curious on the Pioneer U-05 which will come soon to EU...

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Don't know your preferences on connectivity, space consumption, design & materials used, orvother stuff.

For me the Teac UD-501 is a big win in my system as it easily outperforms more expensive DACs.

I am using Audirvana+ and not the original Teac player software on my system.

 

Myself being curious on the Pioneer U-05 which will come soon to EU...

 

I can't speak from experience with TEAC or KORG, but the iFi Micro iDSD is superb. I love that it will play any music I own without transcoding or downsampling, etc., and it sounds wonderful.

 

I thought the iFi Nano iDSD was great, so was unprepared for how much better the Micro sounds.

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Jhwalker, how does the ifi micro sound better compared to the nano?

 

For a start, the built-in amp is *much* more powerful, so your headphones pretty much immediately sound much more "authoritative".

 

Setting that aside,

 

  • PCM music sounds much clearer and more articulate than with the Nano - make no mistake, the Nano sounds great, but the Micro sounds greater ;) I'm using the "bit perfect" filter, so that's probably part of it (you can very clearly hear the difference when you turn on either the minimum phase or linear phase filters)
  • The bass (on both PCM and DSD) sounds much stronger and clearer with the Micro than with the Nano.
  • DSD (as far as I can tell) is about the same between the two; i.e., I don't hear as large a difference with DSD as with PCM

 

On a more subjective note, the Nano sounds lovely but "polite", while the Micro is more colorful and "in your face" - which I like!

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Hi Mac,

 

 

 

All I read is they all are delta sigma....

 

Just kick that crap where it belongs - the gutter.

 

M.I.

 

Some comments reek of tired dogma ...

 

Just comment on a thread where you can add something useful - a different one.

 

Back to the adults on the thread:

 

I've had the iFi for a bit over a week now and its really pretty damn good. I already had the iUSB Power so that is how am powering it for desktop use to not have to worry with battery management. It sounds remarkably clean either way. I can't comment on the other products but I think the iFi is reasonably priced purely as a DAC even without its headphone capability (which is quite good.)

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All I read is they all are delta sigma....

 

Just kick that crap where it belongs - the gutter.

 

M.I.

 

Will you enlighten us with your interpretation of this technical background which makes you so self-confident that you can judge these products without auditioning ?

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Also, IF i do buy an external dac (right now thinking about buying a reciever that supports DSD over HDMI), what is the best way to have the output to go out 2 sets of cables (one set to small pc speaker setup, and one to a reciever). i don't want to have to switch back and forth... can the analog output signal be split, so it plays to both analog outputs at the same time?

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Also, IF i do buy an external dac (right now thinking about buying a reciever that supports DSD over HDMI), what is the best way to have the output to go out 2 sets of cables (one set to small pc speaker setup, and one to a reciever). i don't want to have to switch back and forth... can the analog output signal be split, so it plays to both analog outputs at the same time?

 

iDSD only has one set of outputs, but assuming your devices have reasonably high input impedances then something like a pair of these should work fine

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Actually the iDSD has three sets of outputs. The RCA, headphone and the digital out which can be connect to another receiver that can handle SPDIF inputs. The SPDIF is always active when there is a active USB digital input and the iDSD does not have to be turn on only for the analog outputs. I found this out from another user. The SPDIF port on the micro can be a input, output or optical. This makes the iDSD micro quite flexible.

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Actually the iDSD has three sets of outputs. The RCA, headphone and the digital out which can be connect to another receiver that can handle SPDIF inputs. The SPDIF is always active when there is a active USB digital input and the iDSD does not have to be turn on only for the analog outputs. I found this out from another user. The SPDIF port on the micro can be a input, output or optical. This makes the iDSD micro quite flexible.

 

He asked about the analog output. But you are right, the SPDIF out is an option for a receiver.

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At least I have posted some measurements for both... (my blog here)

 

I don't see the Teac though. I must be missing it. Sure wish I was able to get my hands on both to send to my buddy so he could measure them on his dScope. What do you think objectively/subjectively of them?

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I don't see the Teac though. I must be missing it. Sure wish I was able to get my hands on both to send to my buddy so he could measure them on his dScope. What do you think objectively/subjectively of them?

 

TEAC UD-501:

Playback formats on a TEAC UD-501 (TI PCM1795) - Blogs - Computer Audiophile

 

iDSD Micro:

iFi iDSD Micro measurements - Blogs - Computer Audiophile

Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer

Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers

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Interesting, thanks. Are you willing to share your subjective opinion with and without your software?

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