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    More Quadio is Coming, and it’s Really Cool

     

     

        

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    I imagine the seasoned multichannel audiophiles shaking their heads, remembering the 1970s when they started listening to four channel albums, and saying this is nothing new, we were listening to this before you were born. Some may be saying, what took you so long, while others are saying, welcome to the club. I accept it all in the good spirit in which it’s intended.

     

    I was born in 1975 and didn’t start purchasing music until my first cassettes in the early eighties, then it was on to compact discs shortly thereafter. Quad wasn’t a thing for me back then, and certainly not when I started getting in to HiFi in the mid nineties. Now, quad is a thing for me and it’s really cool!

     

    Rather than internet eye rolling, I hope the experienced quad fans can chime in offering some nuggets of information and share their own experiences. What follows is my own initial experience with Quadio. Sit back, re-live your own experience, and possibly see it through a fresh set of non-rolling eyes. I feel like a kid with a new toy, experiencing four channel audio for the first time.

     

     

    Fresh Quadio Hot Out of The Oven

     

    When I first saw an announcement that Rhino was re-releasing some four channel Quadio albums on Blu-ray, I thought it was interesting it didn’t move my needle. Then I saw the second announcement with four more Quadio titles and I started paying more attention. I even had the initial eight releases in my shopping cart on the Rhino site, but couldn’t pull the trigger for some reason. Once I saw another four Quadio titles were coming in January 2024, and in that batch are War’s The World is a Ghetto, and Average White Band’s AWB, I was all in. I ordered the first two batches of four albums and waited.

     

    I received the Blu-ray albums and finally had a chance to sit down and listen over the weekend. Wow, these are really cool! Plus, the sound quality is fantastic! These Quadio releases, “are transferred from the original half-inch four-channel masters at 192/24 resolution and sound amazing. Considering they’ve been in the vault for 50 years, the tapes were in pristine condition and needed no tweaks or fixes. They sound as fresh, rich, and powerful as the day they were created. And, of course, there’s also a 192/24 stereo program from the two-track master as well.” According to Rhino’s Steve Woolard, Director of A&R for the Quadio series.

     

    Blu-ray is a perfect medium for the new Quadio releases, just like it is for the new immersive Atmos releases of which I’ve been purchasing way too many. I don’t have a traditional Blu-ray player, but I do have a Blu-ray drive for ripping on my Mac. I put Black Sabbath’s Paranoid into the drive, opened MakeMKV, and converted the disc to a single MKV file. This MKV file can be played on many systems with a traditional surround processor, but of course I can’t be normal and have to run my audio through state of the art DSP without a processor, on its way to my 7.1.4 system.

     

    Using Music Media Helper, a free Windows only app, I extracted the four channel tracks from the MKV file to WAV files. Technically I could’ve stopped there and started listening. But, I wanted to make the process even easier. Using the same Music Media Helper app, I converted the four channel WAV files into twelve channel files by adding silent channels. The process is simple and takes a couple clicks. I do this because it makes playback extremely simple. I can leave a twelve channel room correction filter in place while playing four channel music, and switch back and forth between my Atmos releases easily. It’s the little things that make all the difference :~)

     

    BlackSabbath_Paranoid_Quad.pngClicking play on Black Sabbath’s Paranoid, I was stunned at what I heard from the beginning of track 1, War Pigs. Whoa, what an experience. I was instantly transported to London, England in June of 1970 at Regent Sound studio. In a recording studio, members of the band are often placed around the room, not like they are on a stage, and this is exactly what I heard. Granted the mix isn’t intended to place the musicians around the room, it’s an experience with sounds emanating from different channels however engineers Mike Butcher and Spock Wall deemed appropriate. However, this mix really places the listener in the middle of a heavy metal assault and it feels like sitting in the middle of a band trying to punish the listener in the best way possible. It’s fantastic.

     

    The sonic quality is better than I’ve ever heard the album sound. Sure, Ozzy, Tony, and Geezer sound great, but what really got to me was Bill Ward’s drums. The cymbals in War Pigs and their placement made me chuckle a little because they sounded so good. The rest of his kit blew me away as he railed on it throughout the track. In my opinion, he is the start of War Pigs. Prior to hearing this Quadio release, I would’ve never said that or even thought anyone would say that. So enjoyable!

     

     

    More Quadio Please

     

    Similar to many immersive releases, these Quadio albums turned me on to music I’d never have listened to previously. I’ve heard of Gordon Lightfoot, Spinners, and Jefferson Starship obviously, but time is precious and I wouldn’t have spent it on listening to them. Until now. The excellent sound quality, high dynamic range, and engaging Quadio mixes on the albums makes for an incredibly enjoyable experience.

     

    Quadio releases in 2023 included:

     

    Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies

    America - Holiday

    Charles Mingues - Mingues Moves

    J. Geils Band - Nightmares

    Black Sabbath - Paranoid

    Jefferson Starship - Red Octopus

    Spinners - Spinners

    Gordon Lightfoot - Sundown

     

    Releases in 2024 (sor far):

    Randy Newman - Good Old Boys (Jan 19th)

    War - The World Is A Ghetto (Jan 19th)

    Average White Band - AWB (Jan 19th)

    Gil Evans - Svengali (Jan 19th)

     

    Check out the Rhino Quadio page for more information - Rhino Quadio

     

     

    Quadio Wrap Up

     

    Rhino baking fifty year old tapes to bring them back to life and produce fantastic high resolution quad releases, wasn’t on my bingo card a couple years ago. As of a few months ago, listening to quad releases wasn’t on my bingo card either. Fortunately the releases kept coming and I finally took the chance on something many of my audiophile friends had already known and loved. I didn’t listen to naysayers who said quad’s ship had sailed nor did I listen to those saying it was fantastic. I just want to make up my own mind, independent of external influences and I’m so very happy I jumped into quad, and that Rhino is delivering Quadio releases on Blu-ray. This isn’t just a search for out of print titles, it’s a real thing happening now and I love it.

     

     

     

     




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    So, I know Emerson, Lake, and Palmer's 'Brain Salad Surgery' was recorded in quad. In fact, they used a Quad PA system at concerts. If memory serves me right (saw a documentary on ELP and their Concerts in Europe on a flight on CODA).

     

    Also, Queens Night at the Opera was recorded in quad as well. I have the DVD-A 5.1 of that LP. It is wild to listen to in surround. The Prophet's Song is the one to listen to.

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    3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Word on the street is that as long as these keep selling really well, Rhino will keep selling them.

     

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    Do check out Bohemian Rhapsody on that Night At The Opera album. In 5.1 MCH, it’s crazy cool. 
     

    As to Quadio recordings, if you are a Roon user, you likely will need to create a silent 5th (ie, center) channel. My experience with the Chicago Quadio recordings from a few years ago is that Roon would not properly play out all four channel in the right speakers without doing so. Same MMH software as Chris used is what works for this, as well. 
     

    And, by the way, my experience — at least using HQPlayer for convolution and upscaling and Roon for control — is that changing the channel count doesn’t require creating blank channels (but for the issue I describe above).  My filters are 8 channel but work fine with 2, 4, 6 and 8 channel material. JCR 

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    Don;t forget the great Rhino Quadio offerings from Chicago and The Doobie Brothers.  The Chicago box set is NINE albums, the Doobies one is FOUR albums.  They are amazing.  :)

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    There’s also an OOP Rhino Aretha Franklin mixed in multichannel.

     

    By the way Chris, have you ever checked out Dutton Vocalion’s quad reissues or the long OOP Audio Fidelity discs in 4.0 and 5.1?

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    14 hours ago, esimms86 said:

    There’s also an OOP Rhino Aretha Franklin mixed in multichannel.

     

    By the way Chris, have you ever checked out Dutton Vocalion’s quad reissues or the long OOP Audio Fidelity discs in 4.0 and 5.1?

    Whoa, how could I never have heard of the Dutton site! Some good ocntent there, but only on SACD it appears. Wish the site offered some on Blu-ray or download. Much easier to put on a music server. 

     

    Thanks!

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    C'mon Chris, you rip the SACD to iso and DSD, and play it through software or through your OPPO blu ray player (in bitstream format if you have to). Is it so hard? Same with the Sony 7" SACD series with purchases done through cdjapan.. Can you say "Bitches Brew," "Mott The Hoople," "Rick Derringer All American Boy" or "Love, Devotion, Surrender," etc.? And the Dutton Vocalion discs (often twofers) are the best values in digital quad!

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    And, this is really off topic, but if you want to go further down the rabbit hole for less coin than probably one of your cables, there's this: Surround Master V3 - INVOLVE AUDIO 

     

    It isn't everything that sounds better through the Surround Master but there sure is plenty that'll knock your socks off.

     

    Okay, back to Quadio!

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    24 minutes ago, esimms86 said:

    C'mon Chris, you rip the SACD to iso and DSD, and play it through software or through your OPPO blu ray player (in bitstream format if you have to). Is it so hard? Same with the Sony 7" SACD series with purchases done through cdjapan.. Can you say "Bitches Brew," "Mott The Hoople," "Rick Derringer All American Boy" or "Love, Devotion, Surrender," etc.? And the Dutton Vocalion discs (often twofers) are the best values in digital quad!

    I totally hear you! I want it all. So far I’ve avoided ripping SACD. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t want to go down for some reason. 

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    39 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    I totally hear you! I want it all. So far I’ve avoided ripping SACD. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t want to go down for some reason. 

    That's what I used to think back when. I then I PM'ed Ted_b, LOL!

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    Just now, esimms86 said:

    That's what I used to think back when. I then I PM'ed Ted_b, LOL!

    Ha! I love it. 

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    I gotta say Rhino customer service and fulfillment is absolutely positively completely useless.

     

    I placed an order for the first 5 titles January 11, and have pinged CS 5 times for updates, all they can say is "our warehouse is experiencing high orders".

     

    Unbelievable really. 

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    1 hour ago, Danny Kaey said:

    I gotta say Rhino customer service and fulfillment is absolutely positively completely useless.

     

    I placed an order for the first 5 titles January 11, and have pinged CS 5 times for updates, all they can say is "our warehouse is experiencing high orders".

     

    Unbelievable really. 

    I wish this was unbelievable, but it's totally believable :~(

     

    I order directly from Rhino only because you can get 4 for the price of 3. After I order I cross my fingers and delight in the surprise of things actually showing up in a timely manner. 

     

    Rhino has been this way for as long as I can remember. Even going back to when the company actually sold downloads for a hot minute. I had issues and never returned, until these Quadio releases.

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    The Rhino "Quadio" series features some outstanding 1970's immersive 4.0 mixes indeed, but what it really comes down to is the album titles, the music, they are albums which we still enjoying listening to.  "Paranoid" is an obvious crown jewel of the first four bunch, but all of the selections here are smartly curaited.  It also does not hurt that they are priced and positioned so that it makes sense to just get and collect them all and be done with it.  It's actually much less expensive than quad LPs and tapes were back in 73/74.

     

    It's also worth mentioning that there is a Chicago "Quadio" box set that contains every album for which was given a quadraphonic mix in the 70s including their "Greatest Hits" album, at 9 discs total.  Now out-of-print and now demanding a few c-notes to acquire, I suspect that there will eventually be another limited run of this box set.  If the series continues to be a success, a repress of that set seems a no-brainer.

     

    https://www.discogs.com/release/8760859-Chicago-Quadio

     

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    On 2/5/2024 at 9:58 AM, The Computer Audiophile said:

    I wish this was unbelievable, but it's totally believable :~(

     

    I order directly from Rhino only because you can get 4 for the price of 3. After I order I cross my fingers and delight in the surprise of things actually showing up in a timely manner. 

     

    Rhino has been this way for as long as I can remember. Even going back to when the company actually sold downloads for a hot minute. I had issues and never returned, until these Quadio releases.

    I had no idea, I really never ordered anything from Rhino before. I am in the process of documenting this for an upcoming Rhino shit-show video release on my channel.

     

    Yesterday, I finally heard from someone other than a chat bot who told me my order was canceled somehow - for no apparent reason - and they are now going to resubmit the order gratis for me. This is almost to the date a full 4 weeks after I had placed my order January 11. 

     

    Clearly Rhino - Warner Music - is utterly incapable of managing their fulfillment center. Unbelievable really in 2024.

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