JPLAY for iOS

[stefano_mbp]

15 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

when I long press on an album I get this pop up, does this do what you want?

It’s not what he’s asking for …

[stefano_mbp]

22 hours ago, Marcin_gps said:

JPLAY 1.0.6 is now available

 

- Support for Conductor, Ensembles and Soloists in Local Libraries;

 

it's worth adding that, to get the most out of these new features, you need to add in the Minimserver (*) upnpCustom property:

• multiTag={Artist, Genre, Composer, Conductor, Soloists, Orchestra}
• roleTags={Composer, Conductor, Soloists, Orchestra}

 

(*) Full license is required to manage this property 

[stefano_mbp]

6 hours ago, Spacecase said:

1.0.7 still gives permission error despite being allowed to access my local network and fails to discover both renderers and servers. No bueno

Can you describe your setup?

6 hours ago, Spacecase said:

also seems that, once i finally get my renderer connected, it only shows L16 audio formats being supported. I am using upmpdcli as the upnp software on the end point, which definitely supports 24 bit playback

What is your renderer?

[stefano_mbp]

@Cebolla … I should have written “which is “ … it’s clear that is an upnp renderer but we don’t know who’s the manufacturer and which model it is

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, Spacecase said:

It's MPD and umpdcli running on a debian box

Then it’s a matter of how you have configured it … not so easy solution in my opinion

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, Spacecase said:

There's nothing exotic about how my setup is configured. I'm happy to provide any logs or debugging info you may need, but JPlay is the only app that has issue discovering my servers and renderer. So I do not believe the problem is on my end.

@Marcin_gps and @mnuno10 will help for sure

[stefano_mbp]

Maybe the right settings for these parameters could solve the issue

https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/upmpdcli-manual.html#_media_renderer_parameters

 

[stefano_mbp]

9 hours ago, Spacecase said:

https://bucket.digitalsand.photography/index.php/s/gbLFxL9aN5Fm8iW
 

From fresh install. Notice how i grant network permission, but still have persistent error at the top of the screen, have to refresh multiple times for my renderer to show up (also notice how hqplayer never shows up until briefly at the end), have to refresh multiple times before LMS shows up (actually showed up quicker than normal this time), minim never showed up, and renderers show up inconsistently, also notice how LMS showed as disconnected the vast majority of times i refreshed after syncing the library (this makes it basically impossible to update the library after adding new music) 
 

the core issue is the inability to scan the network properly and the associated error message. I can play music once things are connected. 

Which iPad/iPadOS are you running?

Can you check if the app grant to your network is ok? Follow these instructions 

https://helpcenter.trendmicro.com/en-us/article/tmka-09896

Just to try to troubleshoot the issue, have you tried to use MConnect Player (Lite version is free)?

[stefano_mbp]

@Spacecase does your router allow to manage IGMP snooping? You could try to switch it off

[stefano_mbp]

2 hours ago, ericcatz said:

With this change, no matter Mconnect or HQPe can easily find UPnP renderer,

But Jplay still can't find UPnP renderer

Using HQPe and NAA (SOtM sMS200) here.

MConnect is able to find HQPe for sure but will not find NAA at all as it is not UPNP.

Are you sure that yor moOde/NAA setup is working fine? NAA should be discovered by HQPe but cannot by JPlay …

if you want to play to moOde UPNP renderer try to shut down HQPe and stop NAA instance on moOde  … I’m quite sure there is a conflict between moOde/upnp client and NAA installation if they run at the same time

[stefano_mbp]

@ericcatz … if you want to run upnp renderer and NAA at the same time try RoPieeeXL, it is working fine on my two rpi4 and UPNP client is well discovered by JPlay

[stefano_mbp]

3 hours ago, ericcatz said:

In the morning I also tried to install RopieeeXL on RPi 4B,

Tried everything is set up properly and can UPnP & HQPe NAA,

But unfortunately, Jplay still cannot find the UPnP device,

Looks like I'll have to make a temporarily painful decision,

Quit the trial and subscription of Jplay first, and act again when there is good news in the future!

Although the man-machine interface of Jplay is very attractive,

But if you can't push UPnP renderer stably, then everything is in vain!

ericcatz

Are you running the last JPlay version 1.0.7 ?

Which iPad version/model are you running and which iPadOS?

Can you share your network topology and which is your modem/router?

[stefano_mbp]

28 minutes ago, ericcatz said:

All playback machines are connected and played through Switch & wired network,

Mobile device is used as a remote control device through 5G wifi.

If I understand well you’re using a 5G cellular connection with VPN … very unusual and maybe unnecessarily complicated. Why don’t you use the router provided Wi-Fi?

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, ericcatz said:

My 5G wifi refers to the local area network bandwidth within the A/C Router specification,

Not 5G internet.

Please refer to the same wifi network connection, other apps can find the UPnP renderer, that's good,

Why can't Jplay do it?

ericcatz

I understand … but why VPN?

[stefano_mbp]

@ericcatz well … can be there a misunderstanding between 5G and 5GHz?

afaik 5G is a cellular/mobile connection technology while 5GHz is a local network wifi band (usually it comes together with 2.4GHz band)

[stefano_mbp]

@ericcatz while 5GHz band is faster it can be less reliable than 2.4GHz band, depending mainly on obstacles like walls material(concrete, brick, drywall), metal and distance.

Can you try to use 2.4GHz band?

[stefano_mbp]

@ericcatz can you try to close vpn app on your iPad just to check if JPlay works for local content?

[stefano_mbp]

1 hour ago, sjj said:

Enabled Logs then tried Send Logs but nothing appears to happen?

Enable log, reproduce the issue, go back to log and send it before disabling it.

 

[stefano_mbp]

19 minutes ago, sjj said:

when I select Send Logs

Are you clicking on the arrow on the right of the line?

[stefano_mbp]

10 minutes ago, m_j_s said:

Just wondering if it is possible to use JPLAY with a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC presumably via its network input. 

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that Mola Mola Tambaqui can do UPNP, it’s Roon only

[stefano_mbp]

2 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Funny how Roon is the only player than works

Roon is not using UPNP … btw … any changes on your network recently? can you try to reboot your router?

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, steveoat said:

Hi Stefano,'

Recently rebooted router when problems started.  Unfortunately no solutions.

… then some gremlins are playing with your network … 😉

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10 minutes ago, Marcin_gps said:

On 3/5/2023 at 12:43 PM, stefano_mbp said:

 

I wouldn't be 100% sure. There is an alternative app

It’s an alternative to the physical remote, just to control the dac status … no UPNP at all

[stefano_mbp]

25 minutes ago, EuroChamp said:

Maybe I missed this point: What will happen, when using JRiver or Qobuz as data source and during listening I would switch off the iPad?

… the current track will end and nothing will be played any more, it’s UPNP (that isn’t OpenHome)

The same happens if you swipe off the app, without switching off the iPad.

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11 hours ago, CJA said:

Second, is there a reason why individual tracks cannot be added to the queue? Even if a single track is selected in Qobuz or from my server, the entire album from the selected track onward is sent to the queue

Try this:

• select an album
• tap on the vertical three dots icon on the right of a track
• tap now on the down-arrow on the right of Play
• tap on Add to Queue

11 hours ago, CJA said:

Other than that I'd like to see bit depth displayed with the currently shown sample rate

Bit depth and Sample rate are shown at the bottom of the Now Playing window 

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11 hours ago, CJA said:

First, my Vitus supports gapless playback and I'm able to use it with the mcontrol app. But JPlay will not play gapless to the Vitus despite appearing to be set to do that.

As I can read in a previous post you’re using the Lumïn L1 as UPNP server…

It should be interesting if you could try using Minimserver that you can install for free on any pc with Windows/macOS/Linux OS … the issue could be on the L1.

Can you post the screenshot of the renderer settings in JPlay?