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Popular Post kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: I care even less about arguing with anyone else Your posts to this thread and others is strong evidence that this isn't true. Allan F, March Audio and pkane2001 3 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, skikirkwood said: Back when Michael Lavorgna was the editor of Audiostream, I found his commentary to be among the most obnoxious "Trust you ears" reviewer out there. Although not a day job for him, Jay Luong of audiobacon.com has now taken over. Check out his posting on the 27 Best Audiophile Power Cables: https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/ I thought ML was bad but this guy takes the gold in the Wanker Olympics. March Audio and skikirkwood 2 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: If anyone knows an example of an object that exists without the knowing subject, please share, it would be very interesting 🙃 I'm sure there are an almost infinite number of objects that exist without my knowledge of their existence. Asking someone to identify an object that they know nothing about though is similar to asking questions like "Did you forget something?" or "Are you asleep?" By the way, how do we "see for ourselves what's actual"? Teresa 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: Do you know they exist without your knowledge? Yes, because I am constantly discovering new things that I never knew existed before. Teresa 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: If you know an object, it exists for you. If you don't know the object yet, it does not exist for you. You, as knowing subject exist before, during and after you know any object, old or new. If that's hard to understand, ok, no problem, you win! And I'll go back to watching Netflix. No, you win. You've succeeded in derailing yet another thread with your metaphysical musings. RickyV, March Audio and Allan F 3 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Allan F said: Or, when you are trying to find a lost object, "Where did you put it?" 🙂 Isn't it amazing that lost objects are always in the last place you look? Allan F, Racerxnet, March Audio and 1 other 2 2 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, skikirkwood said: And don't forget, no matter where you go, there you are. Yeah, it feels like deja vu all over again. Racerxnet 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, AnotherSpin said: It seems to me that what I have said is relevant. I believe that we can trust our ears and I justify my opinion by saying that all so-called objective data is within our subjective knowing. I can say it again, I don't demand to agree with me. Everyone has the right to think as he or she chooses and to express his or her opinion freely. Given, of course, freedom still means something. This is a thread in the Objective-Fi subforum. Your opinions about the nature of reality are off-topic here. Teresa, March Audio and Allan F 3 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Iving said: The Thread Title (and possibly intent) is bait. You can't debate both sides of "Trust your ears" harnessing empirical data. It's implicit in "Trust your ears" that empirical data are overridden. In Objective-Fi, the Thread as launched ("omg i thought i could hear a difference, but i hadn't even changed input source - geddit?") is at best an echo chamber. At worst it becomes tinder for the same old tensions. The gap between soft-Objective and soft-Subjective can/should be had out as argument. But not here. It seems to me that the fundamental problem is that many subjectivists want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be able to freely share their opinions on the rest of the forum without being "harassed" by objectivists AND come into this sub-forum to attack those with a more objectivist view of the world. March Audio 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: It's also not lost on me that @March Audio seems to find his way into every argumentative thread. Let's not forgot the folks that seem to follow him from thread to thread, nipping at his heels... March Audio 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Allan F said: The "problem" you refer to is, at least with respect to this thread, the result of a topic Trust Your Ears that intentionally or otherwise invites replies from subjectivists. I agree with Teresa who, appropriately in my view, questioned whether this topic belongs in the Objective-Fi forum. I agree but the "problem" of subjectivists taking potshots at objectivists in this sub-forum isn't confined to this thread, IMHO. March Audio 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
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