mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 11 hours ago, Speedskater said: Not NIT PICKING at all! 'earth is a way, way overused term. There are many points in a system that might be casually called earth. Only one of those points is the correct one. The term "earth" should only be used for points in a circuit with a low-impedance connection to the actual earth, typically via the mains safety ground. marce 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, sandyk said: It's STILL NIT PICKING. Words have meanings. Get used to it. tmtomh 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, sandyk said: his isn't the appropriate Forum to discus this kind of subject. Neither does it have any relevance to the question originally asked by the OP. Oh, look. More irony. tmtomh, MikeyFresh and marce 2 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, R1200CL said: I like it 😀 So how long does it have to be in order to comply with the USB specifications ? ..... There is no minimum length. Link to comment
mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, R1200CL said: So where is the 90 ohm located ? In the cable or the plugs ? 90 Ω is the characteristic impedance, not DC resistance. R1200CL 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, R1200CL said: Several entries in that table are wrong. HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI, and PCIe should all be 100 Ω. The figures there are taken from an NXP application note referencing an Intel design guide which recommends using slightly lower values for PCB traces in specific applications. Don't trust Wikipedia. Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, R1200CL said: @mansr The use of a twisted ethernet cable as USB was the interesting part here. So I guess the value for ethernet was correct. Yes, Ethernet is 100 Ω. That's (barely) within the acceptable range for USB 2.0. Quote And next question is, why do one have to comply with the specifications? And more important what happens if you don’t ? Then you get signal reflections which, if bad enough, cause transmission errors. Quote Bits are bits 😂 Only if they are received correctly. Impedance matching is one part of ensuring that they are. sandyk and R1200CL 1 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, marce said: the faster the signal (this is the signals rise time) the more critical the impedance control. And for this reason, picosecond rise times on signals with fairly low edge rate (like S/PDIF) isn't necessarily a good idea. Link to comment
mansr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, R1200CL said: Did you just made an argument why USB is likly to be superior to S/PDIF ?😀 No. Link to comment
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