Euphony OS w/Stylus player setup and issues thread

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4 minutes ago, davide256 said:

using the bubble upnpserver app +minimserver2

I’m using same configuration … it should work.

Try with Lumïn app, it is available on Android too

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2 minutes ago, davide256 said:

Problem solved by running HQPe native

👍

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7 hours ago, genvirt said:

Interesting if there will be free upgrade from v3

… if you buy from now on the V3 …

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2 hours ago, Lukasluis said:

The zenstream has its own library manager/player and I find it better than Euphony in terms of usability and much better in terms of sonics

… it runs a rebadged, slightly customized, version of Volumio …

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1 hour ago, Smaragdhk said:

on my 10i7 NUC I need to press F10 during boot and then I can select which drive to boot from… I select the USB drive and boot from USB. If I don’t interrupt the boot with F10 it will automatically boot from the internal Femto SSD…

hope this helps…

You can change the boot sequence in bios settings.

If you set usb as first boot choice the Nuc will boot always from usb if connected and compatible, if not it will boot from internal hdd/ssd partition

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12 minutes ago, c-w said:

HQP does not support mp3 format

Actually it does …

https://www.signalyst.com/custom.html

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14 minutes ago, Mustu said:

I am trying to copy V4 - only thing is I have a Mac and Etcher is not working.... its know issue. what are  the other options? does anyone with a Mac have a solution?

Try ApplePi-Baker

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2 minutes ago, Mustu said:

I don’t think it will work

I’m using it successfully …. it works like a charm ….

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Just now, Smaragdhk said:

unzip the GZ

ApplePi-Baker doesn’t need to unzip the file … it can do it itself 

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8 minutes ago, Mustu said:

please can you guide me - I am horrible at command line

No command line is needed with ApplePi-Baker, just install it and use it like any other application 

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Just now, Mustu said:

so I just do a restore from file to disk

Yes, select the disk (usb stick or any other disk usb connected), select the iso or gz file to restore and let it work …

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1 minute ago, Mustu said:

the file I have is a .img

… it’s ok …

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7 minutes ago, Mustu said:

 

when I go to boot it does not give me the option to select the drive… 

Did it before? Maybe you have to enable the usb boot from bios …

Did the restore with ApplePi-Baker ended well?

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5 minutes ago, Mustu said:

I have usb boot option enabled 

 

When you power on the Nuc after a while the Intel logo should show up, at the bottom you should see 
F2 to go to bios

F10 to select the boot drive

what happens if you push F10?

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14 minutes ago, Mustu said:

I have usb boot option enabled

Secure boot must be disabled too … follow these instructions 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000089908/intel-nuc.html

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Help me to understand …

many of you are using Roon, Euphony OS, HQPlayer (embedded?).

Which is the difference using Roon and HQPlayer OS (embedded)?

And what if we remove Roon from the equation and we use Euphony/HQPlayer embedded and Minimserver as library manager? (HQPlayer embedded is UPNP compatible)

And more, what if we remove Euphony OS too and run HQPlayer OS alone with Minimserver?

I don’t really understand which can be the advantage (about Quality of Sound) running Euphony/HQPlayer vs HQPlayer OS?

How can the advantage of Euphony OS be still there using HQPlayer instead of the main Euphony player?

 

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7 minutes ago, Yiakubou said:

I've found that there is very little difference between HQP embedded running on Euphony and HQP running on a bootable, plug and play linux image provided by HQP developer / Jussi for free.

That is what I was thinking …

8 minutes ago, Yiakubou said:

If you use Stylus to control HQP, then Stylus only sends playback commands and track links and lets HQP stream all the data and do its own work

This seems the UPNP expected behavior, that would be the same if you use Minimserver, apps like Lumïn, Linn, Kazoo, MConnect or Bubbleupnp (depending on whether you’re using iOS or Android, the first three app need Bubbleupnpserver running), and HQPlayer OS. It’s hard for me to imagine that a UPNP server (Euphony or Minimserver) can be different one each other.

 

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15 minutes ago, Yiakubou said:

I'm not using UPNP in my system today, so difficult to tell for me. It's Stylus/Roon on Euphony -> HQP on Euphony or Jussi's image -> NAA endpoint (Allo Digione Signature running on RopieeeXL)

If Roon is in the equation then RAAT should be the used protocol, but if you remove Roon then UPNP can be the only usable protocol to let Euphony communicate with HQPlayer embedded. That is different from communicating to the endpoint, using HQPlayer and NAA the communication protocol will be anyway the one used by HQPlayer.

I’m using HQPlayer OS embedded and NAA is running on SOtM sMS200/NAA and rpi4/RoPieeeXL/NAA like you. UPNP enters the game only in the communication between Minimserver and HQPlayer embedded, using Lumïn app as control point.

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16 minutes ago, davide256 said:

now using all that space to convert all FLAC to WAV

FYI … using MinimServer/MinimStreamer you can transcode flac (and even alac) to wav on the fly preserving original bit/sample rate

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8 minutes ago, Yiakubou said:

There is no difference in bit/sample rate between flac and wav formats

Of course, it is well known 😉 But as MinimStreamer can resample too it was just a way to say that transcoding flac to wav can be done preserving original bit/sample rate

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7 hours ago, stefano_mbp said:

Help me to understand

… some progress  …

5 hours ago, stefano_mbp said:

If Roon is in the equation then RAAT should be the used protocol

I could understand that in the chain Roon —> Euphony Stylus RAAT protocol is not used, Squeezelite protocol is used ( this happens, I suppose, as Euphony is not Roon certified). The alternative HQPlayer Control protocol was more attractive, as Squeezelite protocol has sample rate limitations (max. s.r. 24/192), but it is not usable anymore.

… some fog has dissipated …

 

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3 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

Is there software that can run on the Pi that Stylus can stream to

Any UPNP compatibile sw, like RoPieeeXL with UPNP/DLNA enabled.

I did tried it and it worked fine, moOde, Volumio or GentooPlayer should work too

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52 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

are the other 3 Players and not endpoints

They are players but can be endpoint too.

On moOde and Volumio you need to activate the UPNP client feature

On GentooPlayer you need to activate MPD and Upmpdcli or just GMediaRender 

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@drjimwillie you can download the .img file (see the macOS instructions) and use Rufus or Balena Etcher to burn the img on your usb drive

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4 minutes ago, StreamFidelity said:

The HQPlayer offers a USB license dongle

…. Quite expensive … a new license, more or less