Miska Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Here's comparison how different analog filter designs affect the DAC transient output, tested with square wave: Squarewaves from DACs - Blogs - Computer Audiophile The one I use in DSC1 is not Bessel though. Of the DACs I know, at least some Cambridge Audio models use Bessel (Dac Magic). Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
manisandher Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I was under the apparently incorrect impression that linear phase was limited to first order (analog) crossover filters. Here's what Nelson Pass says: The 6dB/octave and the inverted 12 and 18dB/octave examples yield sums which are quite fiat, and remarkably, we see that the 12 and 18dB/octave cases both yield identical amplitude and phase results. Of all these filters only one, the lowly 6dB/octave crossover has both accurate amplitude and phase response when the outputs are reassembled. Source: https://passlabs.com/press/phase-coherent-crossover-networks Until a few years ago I owned a pair of Pass XVR-1 active analogue crossovers: I spent many months playing around with all types of crossovers. But eventually, the only ones I could live with were 1st order. Mani. Main: SOtM sMS-200 -> Okto dac8PRO -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horns + 2x Rotel RB-1590 amps -> 4 subs Home Office: SOtM sMS-200 -> MOTU UltraLite-mk5 -> 6x Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Impulse H2 speakers Vinyl: Technics SP10 / London (Decca) Reference -> Trafomatic Luna -> RME ADI-2 Pro Link to comment
semente Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Here's what Nelson Pass says: Source: https://passlabs.com/press/phase-coherent-crossover-networks Until a few years ago I owned a pair of Pass XVR-1 active analogue crossovers: [ATTACH=CONFIG]31280[/ATTACH] I spent many months playing around with all types of crossovers. But eventually, the only ones I could live with were 1st order. Mani. In a perfect world we would (/should?) all prefer phase and time coherent speakers but the reality is that the shallow slope of a first order filter will affect frequency and power response and is ineffective at tackling break-up resonances (although you may get away with it by narrowing the operating band of the driver): Here's an interesting essay on the subject: Phase, Time and Distortion in Loudspeakers R SaveSave "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
Miska Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 One can of course use tools like Acourate or Audiolense to create room/speaker correction filters that also correct phase anomalies from speaker cross-overs. Acourate can also generate optimized digital cross-over filters. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Talk about wide ranging, this thread has morphed into one covering a myriad of topics. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
artur9 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 time for some brain imaging studies How about compression affecting the mood of the music? Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 How about compression affecting the mood of the music? Compression or depression? "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
audiventory Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 How about compression affecting the mood of the music? For me more "qualitative" (by my subjective perception) music cause lesser tiredness during listening. AuI ConverteR 48x44 - HD audio converter/optimizer for DAC of high resolution files ISO, DSF, DFF (1-bit/D64/128/256/512/1024), wav, flac, aiff, alac, safe CD ripper to PCM/DSF, Seamless Album Conversion, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, DSF metadata editor, Mac & WindowsOffline conversion save energy and nature Link to comment
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