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I was under the apparently incorrect impression that linear phase was limited to first order (analog) crossover filters.

 

Here's what Nelson Pass says:

 

The 6dB/octave and the inverted 12 and 18dB/octave examples yield sums which are quite fiat, and remarkably, we see that the 12 and 18dB/octave cases both yield identical amplitude and phase results. Of all these filters only one, the lowly 6dB/octave crossover has both accurate amplitude and phase response when the outputs are reassembled.

Source: https://passlabs.com/press/phase-coherent-crossover-networks

 

Until a few years ago I owned a pair of Pass XVR-1 active analogue crossovers:

 

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I spent many months playing around with all types of crossovers. But eventually, the only ones I could live with were 1st order.

 

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Here's what Nelson Pass says:

 

 

Source: https://passlabs.com/press/phase-coherent-crossover-networks

 

Until a few years ago I owned a pair of Pass XVR-1 active analogue crossovers:

 

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I spent many months playing around with all types of crossovers. But eventually, the only ones I could live with were 1st order.

 

Mani.

 

In a perfect world we would (/should?) all prefer phase and time coherent speakers but the reality is that the shallow slope of a first order filter will affect frequency and power response and is ineffective at tackling break-up resonances (although you may get away with it by narrowing the operating band of the driver):

 

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Here's an interesting essay on the subject:

 

Phase, Time and Distortion in Loudspeakers

 

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Talk about wide ranging, this thread has morphed into one covering a myriad of topics.

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Compression or depression? ;)

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For me more "qualitative" (by my subjective perception) music cause lesser tiredness during listening.

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