bwspot Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I am looking for a receiver similar to Receiver | A/V Receiver | Stereo Receiver | AVR | TX-8050 | Onkyo USA but with support for airplay I found also the Marantz option , but it has only 60W and no coax inputs. Marantz US | M-CR510 Anyone is aware of similar hardware? thx Link to comment
Paul R Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Check the Pioneer SX-1124-K, or the Marantz 5008. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Not "stereo" as such ... But check out the Marantz NR1504. Also the Yamaha R-N500 is exactly what you were looking for. Eloise PS I wouldn't worry about Marantz M-CR510 being "only" 60w unless you have some very unusual requirements. Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
bwspot Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 thx, my original plan was to get sr5008. (upgrade from sr5003) I only use two speakers so i though that stereo amplifier could be a litter better as there is less components? Link to comment
bwspot Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 I do have Millennia M60 v3 Floorstanding Speakers | Axiom Audio Link to comment
bwspot Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Not "stereo" as such ... But check out the Marantz NR1504. Also the Yamaha R-N500 is exactly what you were looking for. Eloise PS I wouldn't worry about Marantz M-CR510 being "only" 60w unless you have some very unusual requirements. how is Yamaha compared to Marantz? Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 how is Yamaha compared to Marantz? No idea. I own the Marantz but only ever read reviews of the Yamaha. Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
mav52 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I do haveMillennia M60 v3 Floorstanding Speakers | Axiom Audio Those speakers are easy to drive, so any of the AVR's mentioned will work. The Marantz to me seemed more musical but that's just me, Yamaha is well built but any of these will provide you with good sound for under $600.. The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
bwspot Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 Those speakers are easy to drive, so any of the AVR's mentioned will work. The Marantz to me seemed more musical but that's just me, Yamaha is well built but any of these will provide you with good sound for under $600.. Yamaha seems to have everything i need just to play stereo. I can hook up blueray and satellite to it. It seems like it is a good amp. I only have two speakers so getting a 7.1 receiver seems to be pointless. I cannot see any benefits. I had it for 5 years just to play stereo sound, so now i can upgrade to Yamaha to support network features plus old style stereo. The only thing i noticed they dont support ALAC code which might be an issue when apple starts to distribute hi res audio. Link to comment
realhifi Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 The only thing i noticed they dont support ALAC code which might be an issue when apple starts to distribute hi res audio. Bingo. David Link to comment
phatoldsun Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 HK has a couple networking stereo integrated amps. Harman Audio - HK3700AM I have no experience with this one. Link to comment
realhifi Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 bad or good Bingo? I would think you might want ALAC. I doubt Apple would put things out AIFF but you never know. More importantly Linn and some other high red music download sites off either ALAC or FLAC and if you are Mac you would want the ALAC. David Link to comment
bwspot Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 I would think you might want ALAC. I doubt Apple would put things out AIFF but you never know. More importantly Linn and some other high red music download sites off either ALAC or FLAC and if you are Mac you would want the ALAC. Yes, I would like to have it just in case. It is hard to find a network amp that does everything. There is always some got ya. I will probably go with new version of Marantz SR5008, but the true is that i don't need any of the video and surround features it has. I always though that simple amp would perform better as it has less electronic components then a av receiver. Link to comment
Ajax Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yamaha seems to have everything i need just to play stereo. I can hook up blueray and satellite to it. It seems like it is a good amp. I only have two speakers so getting a 7.1 receiver seems to be pointless. I cannot see any benefits. I had it for 5 years just to play stereo sound, so now i can upgrade to Yamaha to support network features plus old style stereo. The only thing i noticed they dont support ALAC code which might be an issue when apple starts to distribute hi res audio. I know this thread is old but I have been looking for an inexpensive "Streamer, DAC/AMP" for sometime for my son who requires airplay for iTunes, Spotify and his iPhone plus hook up his Apple TV and the Yamaha NR 500 looks like it has all basis covered. It will also double for an outside system for our balcony so the extra set of speakers that can be played A / B and A + B is really attractive. Only concern is all my ripped music is ALAC and that would be a deal killer (always something) as it is not listed under compatible formats. However, I saw this review, which I now can't find, that commented on the sound quality while playing 24/96 "Apple Lossless files", which obviously implies it s compatible with ALAC - can anyone confirm it is or otherwise? Thanks in advance. Ajax LOUNGE: Mac Mini - Audirvana - Devialet 200 - ATOHM GT1 Speakers OFFICE : Mac Mini - Audirvana - Benchmark DAC1HDR - ADAM A7 Active Monitors TRAVEL : MacBook Air - Dragonfly V1.2 DAC - Sennheiser HD 650 BEACH : iPhone 6 - HRT iStreamer DAC - Akimate Micro + powered speakers Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I know this thread is old but I have been looking for an inexpensive "Streamer, DAC/AMP" for sometime for my son who requires airplay for iTunes, Spotify and his iPhone plus hook up his Apple TV and the Yamaha NR 500 looks like it has all basis covered. It will also double for an outside system for our balcony so the extra set of speakers that can be played A / B and A + B is really attractive. You might want to check ... but iirc the Yamaha doesn't offer gapless playback (at least not via UPnP). AirPlay should support gapless (and of course supports Apple Lossless and any other format in iTunes / on your iPhone or iPad) but is going to be limited to CDRB standard (no native High Resolution). Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
realhifi Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I know this thread is old but I have been looking for an inexpensive "Streamer, DAC/AMP" for sometime for my son who requires airplay for iTunes, Spotify and his iPhone plus hook up his Apple TV and the Yamaha NR 500 looks like it has all basis covered. It will also double for an outside system for our balcony so the extra set of speakers that can be played A / B and A + B is really attractive. Only concern is all my ripped music is ALAC and that would be a deal killer (always something) as it is not listed under compatible formats. However, I saw this review, which I now can't find, that commented on the sound quality while playing 24/96 "Apple Lossless files", which obviously implies it s compatible with ALAC - can anyone confirm it is or otherwise? Thanks in advance. Ajax Check out the new Onkyo TX-8160 network stereo receiver. Has just about everything you are looking for although I can not be certain about the streaming of ALAC as I have not had one in to give it a workout. Receivers | A/V Receiver | Stereo Receiver | AVR | TX-8160 | Onkyo USA David Link to comment
Ajax Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Check out the new Onkyo TX-8160 network stereo receiver. Has just about everything you are looking for although I can not be certain about the streaming of ALAC as I have not had one in to give it a workout. Receivers | A/V Receiver | Stereo Receiver | AVR | TX-8160 | Onkyo USA Hi Eloise and David, Thank you for your thoughts. The Onkyo TX-8160 looks like an amazing piece of kit for only US$399 (as listed on Amazon). From what I can ascertain it has just been released and presents incredible value if it sounds half decent considering the multitude of connectivity. Perfect for a second user friendly system for the family room and streaming around the house: - Ethernet, Wireless, 2 x coaxial, 2 x optical, USB, Airplay, Bluetooth, Spotify, - Hi-res DAC - Smart phone app - Second set of speakers - Second zone - Sub out - plus plus plus Manual also states that it plays ALAC so should be perfect for my needs if I can find it in Aus. Thanks very much for the suggestion and your time. Ajax Amazon.com: Onkyo TX-8160 Network Stereo Receiver: Electronics LOUNGE: Mac Mini - Audirvana - Devialet 200 - ATOHM GT1 Speakers OFFICE : Mac Mini - Audirvana - Benchmark DAC1HDR - ADAM A7 Active Monitors TRAVEL : MacBook Air - Dragonfly V1.2 DAC - Sennheiser HD 650 BEACH : iPhone 6 - HRT iStreamer DAC - Akimate Micro + powered speakers Link to comment
Cebolla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi Ajax, The Yamaha R-N602, successor to the R-N500 mentioned by Eloise, is out this month. Its streaming spec is very similar to the Onkyo TX-8160 and includes Yamaha's latest MusicCast innovation, plus has arguably a better amp section (0.04% THD as opposed to 0.1%). List price is $650 US, though: R-N602 - Stereo Receivers - Hi-Fi Components - Audio & Visual - Products - Yamaha United States John We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
Ajax Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi Ajax, The Yamaha R-N602, successor to the R-N500 mentioned by Eloise, is out this month. Its streaming spec is very similar to the Onkyo TX-8160 and includes Yamaha's latest MusicCast innovation, plus has arguably a better amp section (0.04% THD as opposed to 0.1%). List price is $650 US, though: R-N602 - Stereo Receivers - Hi-Fi Components - Audio & Visual - Products - Yamaha United States John Hi John, Thanks for the recommendation. The Yamaha unit also appears to have incredible connectivity and also includes Apple Lossless. It appears the manufacturers have finally caught on to what's required for convenient playback, which bodes well for encouraging new generations into HiFi. I obviously haven't heard either of these units but if they have reasonable sound then they are a no brainer for non audiophiles or a second systems. Not sure if we should expect much sound wise considering how much they have packed into one box at such low prices. Add a pair of US$500-600 bookshelf speakers from the likes of Kef or B&W and you could have serious kit for US$1,000. Regards, Ajax Ajax LOUNGE: Mac Mini - Audirvana - Devialet 200 - ATOHM GT1 Speakers OFFICE : Mac Mini - Audirvana - Benchmark DAC1HDR - ADAM A7 Active Monitors TRAVEL : MacBook Air - Dragonfly V1.2 DAC - Sennheiser HD 650 BEACH : iPhone 6 - HRT iStreamer DAC - Akimate Micro + powered speakers Link to comment
Isaacc7 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The pioneer receivers will also do what you want. I've been happy with mine. Link to comment
Cebolla Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Is that a new pioneer stereo receiver? The only ones I'm aware of don't have any network support, eg, the relatively recent SX-20. Or are you referring to a Pioneer AV receiver (so not the subject of this thread)? We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
Isaacc7 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Sorry, thought there was discussion earlier about surround receivers. The pioneer AVRs do that stuff, not the stereo ones. Link to comment
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