Talos2000 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 A friend of mine showed me a recording of a Bruckner symphony by an orchestra and conductor of whom I had never heard. Henry Adolph and the Philharmonica Slavonica. This prompted me to do a Google search for more information. What I found was that neither this conductor, nor his ensemble actually exist! Yet a search on Amazon for "Henry Adolph" returns no less than 202 albums, some of which were released in 2011! According to Amazon, Maestro Adolph has also released CDs conducting other imaginary orchestras, including the North German Philharmonic Orchestra, South German Philharmonic Orchestra, and RSO Ljubljana. He has, however, also recorded with some notable real orchestras, such as the Munich Symphony Orchestra, the Slovak Philharmonic Orchestra, and the London Festival Orchestra. Amazon will happily sell you CDs of these dubious recordings. The imaginary Philharmonica Slavonica has been just as busy, releasing many recordings with other apparently imaginary conductors including Alberto Lizzi, Loic Bertrand, and Alexander Perovsky (who may actually be an imaginary violinist). Other apparently imaginary artists whose works are sold on Amazon include Alfred Gerhardt, Klaus-Peter Hahn, Christian Rainer, and Carl Michalski. If any of those persons actually exist, then I apologize to them, but between Google and Wikipedia, there seems to be little to suggest that they do. Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Alberto Lizzi: "Alberto Lizzio" is a pseudonymous conductor whose name is used on various recordings produced by Alfred Scholz (see References), including a bizarre Beethoven Ninth and a rather good recording of middle-period Haydn symphonies. Scholz had a veritable stable of non-existent conductors under contract, which he used on his Pilz and Vienna Masters labels." "Alberto Lizzio" was a pseudonym invented by bargain-record producer Alfred Scholz and attached to older performances (often conducted by Hans Swarowsky, Milan Horvat, Carl Melles or himself). The "South German Philharmonic" - if the attribution is correct - was a short-lived pick-up ensemble assembled by Scholz from members of the Czech Philharmonic in Prague and the Bamberg Symphony around 1968" Incredible, really. Link to comment
4est Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 For what purpose? To sell a few albums through Amazon I wonder? Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
mgod Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Might be related to this phenomenon: http://www.npr.org/2012/01/29/146053943/on-amazon-an-uneasy-mix-of-plagiarism-and-erotica Nothing is real. Link to comment
Mark Powell Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 But half the pop singers in the world have bogus names, So what's the difference? BTW: One that particularly amuses me. 'Sir' Cliff Richard. He got a knighthood from the queen. But he doesn't exist. Link to comment
thequietman Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 In the uk Cliff Richard is a household name, www.cliffrichard.org Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Only his name is really Harry Webb. Though in English law you can call yourself what you like. A change of name (via feed poll) is just formalising that name. Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Talos2000 Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 ... is a lot like Céline Dion. We try our best to erase him from our consciousness. Link to comment
DrGoldin Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 That can't be the reason, because I own an old CD, copyright 1993, that says "1989 recording" and includes two performances attributed to "Alberto Lizzo" (yes, they misspelled the pseudonym) and the London Symphony Orchestra: Beethoven's Egmont and Coriolan overtures. Since Amazon wasn't founded until 1994, Scholz's bogus names are older than Amazon. (Two other conductors are credited for other pieces on the disc: Anton Nanut, who is a real person, and Emil Edlinger, who, as far as I can tell, is not.) I've been trying to figure out who is behind the infamous "Lizzo" performance of the Egmont, because it's actually pretty good. If it's really Scholz, and he had taken credit for himself, people might remember him today for more than just being a fraud. For what purpose? To sell a few albums through Amazon I wonder? Link to comment
Paul R Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 For what purpose? To sell a few albums through Amazon I wonder? It's probably not the same, but I seem to remember something about a scheme for conductors and players behind the iron curtain to make money with bogus names and such. Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
firedog Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Until sometime in the 70's pop/rock artists who wanted to appear as session musicians on another label often couldn't use their real names due to contractural restrictions. So either they weren't listed, or you see lots of ridiculous pseudonyms, many of which let you know exactly who the person actually is. Maybe something similar is going on here. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Al Jones Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Bob Dylan has a few tracks on the Broadside Ballads, Vol. 1 anthology LP credited to Blind Boy Grunt! Al J. Modem/router + Keces DC-116 12V LPS - SGC Sonic Transporter + Sonore 12V LPS/Edwards Audio ISO-1 mains isolation transformer - Meicord Opal LAN cables - Aqvox Switch + Sbooster 9V LPS/Uptone LPS-1 - Etalon Isolator - Sonore Signature Rendu Special Edition + Mad Scientist Heretical USB data-only cable - Sonore Ultradigital + Uptone LPS-1 - PS Audio I2S-12 cable - HQ Player - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - iPeng on iPad 2 - MK Sound 300 monitors - Mad Audio Scientist Tungsten Carbide footers - Niels Larsen NLE speaker cables - Walker Audio Reference Plus HIGH Definition Links - 2 MK Sound MX350 subs - Shakti Stones - Herbie's Super Sonic Stabilizers - Herbie's Tenderfeet - Stillpoints ERS EMI/RFI sheets - Gutwire Ultimate Ground + Entreq Minimus + Silver Minimus grounding boxes - Symposium Rollerblocks - Symposium Ultra platform - Akiko Tuning Sticks Link to comment
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