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    Eric Clapton - The Definitive 24 Nights - Dolby Atmos - WOW!

     

     

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    I'm a fan of Eric Clapton's music, but not a super fan. I saw him live at Royal Albert Hall in February 2001 and loved the show, but I certainly didn't travel to London specifically to see him. I own a few of his albums and have a few more favorited in my streaming libraries. I prefer the deeper tracks over the classic rock radio hits. I love his albums Reptile (2001) and Riding with the King with B.B. King (2000). I got heavily into his Lady in the Balcony unplugged album over the last couple years as well. To be honest, I don't remember ever listening to Clapton's 24 Nights. 

     

    Why am I writing about The Definitive 24 Nights Super Deluxe CD Edition and isn't there someone who can better compare and contrast 24 Nights versions and dig deep into the differences of each box, both past and present? I'm sure there are many people more capable of writing a 24 Nights treatise. However, the reason I'm excited about The Definitive 24 Nights and what the focus of this review is, is Dolby Atmos. Without Dolby Atmos, I'd likely have overlooked this box set. With Dolby Atmos and my calibrated 12 channel Wilson Audio system, this box is right up my alley.

     

    According to Clapton's online store, "The Definitive 24 Nights [Super Deluxe CD Set] limited-edition deluxe box sets include a full concert on audio and film of each genre: Rock, Blues and Orchestral. 47 songs, almost 6 hours of music on 6 CDs or 8 LPs and 3 Blu-ray’s. The Blu-ray’s are exclusive to these box sets that also contain a hard bound book and an individually numbered lithograph."

     

    The three Blu-ray Discs contain video of the concerts, but to be honest, I haven't seen a second of the video. I love music and theater of the mind. I'll never allow video into my listening room. I wanted the Blu-ray Discs for the lossless TrueHD Dolby Atmos music only. The entire three disc set will be available in lossy Dolby Digital+ JOC Atmos beginning June 22, 2023 on Apple Music, but the TrueHD Atmos on the Blu-ray sounds much much better (compared to the early release singles). If one is interested in quality, this box set with three Blu-ray Discs is an absolute must!

     

     

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    The Blu-ray Discs are labeled Rock, Blues, and Orchestral. Most of the songs are unique to each disc, but some songs are on more than one disc, played in different arrangements. At first blush it seems that more than one version of a song is for the super fan only, but after listening, I'm happy to report this isn't the case. Even the casual Eric Clapton fan will enjoy the different versions. 

     

    Let's look at the song Old Love. It's on the Rock and Orchestral discs. The Rock version in Atmos places the listener right in Royal Albert Hall, with great reverb filling out the surround and height channels. The side surround channels envelop the listening position with the perfect amount of content. For example, the guitar solo near the 3.5 minute mark is mainly focussed on the front speakers, but the supporting cast of speakers has plenty of reverb, drums, and cymbals to keep the immersion very real. At the end of the solo, the crowd applauds, again putting the listener inside Royal Albert Hall. 

     

    The Orchestral version of Old Love features more music in the side and height channels, for a great sense of space. Just like an orchestral piece should. The backing orchestra gives an elevation to the music that lifts the listening space up as the sense of heigh increases. It's truly a fantastic listening experience and a fantastic piece of music. Old Love isn't a track I remember hearing, ever. The Atmos versions (rock and orchestral) are unique and have me totally sold. A combined twenty minutes of music that goes by in a flash. 

     

    Bell Bottom Blues (orchestral) is another wonderful arrangement and Atmos mix. The immersion is so tastefully, there isn't a hint of gimmickry. Comparing this to the stereo version and the Lady in the Balcony Atmos version, it's no contest. The 24 Nights Atmos orchestral version blows away all previous versions. 

     

    The entire 24 Nights three disc Atmos set is mixed wonderfully and sounds terrific. All the meters in my 7.1.4 12 channel system show plenty of music. This is the opposite of The Rolling Stones' Grrr Live! in Atmos, which I can't stand. A major tip of the cap to Dolby Atmos mixing engineers Andy Bradfield and Simon Climie, and Dolby Atmos Assistant Engineer Jacob Dennis for their great work on this Definitive 24 nights box set.

     

    As I write this, I just keep listening and getting feedback from people via the forum (I posted a short note that I was listening to the album). There's a lot of music to listen to in this box, but I'm enthralled with it and have a new love for more of Clapton's work since I started listening. I'm currently playing White Room on the orchestral disc. A track that I previously would've skipped. In Atmos, it's an enveloping experience with backing vocalists, horns, strings, and 5,272 applauding Clapton fans. This Definitive 24 Nights box set has me much more interested in Clapton's entire catalog, and I absolutely want it all in TrueHD Dolby Atmos. There's nothing like it. 

     

    It doesn't stop! I just received a message that I should listen to the song titled Edge of Darkness. I can't say I've ever heard of it, but I see it's on the orchestral Disc of 24 Nights. This track is superbly gorgeous. Lush guitar with an ethereal backing string section that's mixed for Atmos beautifully. Once the band kicks in around the 3:30 mark, the sound fills out the three dimensional Atmos space even more and immerses the listener in all that is great about Clapton and this 24 nights box. It's like bathing in guitar virtuosity that sounds stellar. The ending solo makes me feel like I'm sitting in Royal Albert Hall!

     

    The Definitive 24 Nights Super Deluxe CD Set is an absolute bargain and a must have. Considering the Rush Moving Pictures box, which is required to get the 7 songs in Atmos on Blu-ray, costs from $250-$300 right now, and that I paid $320 for the Dark Side of the Moon box set, only to get the Atmos Blu-ray, I think spending $140 for 6 hours / 50 tracks of Clapton gems that sound fantastic in Atmos is a no brainer. Add to cart. Seriously.  

     

     

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    Chris, 

     

    Thanks for the review.  The Amazon listing and page do NOTHING to highlight this work as exceptional.

     

     

    bob --- in the cart ----

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    3 minutes ago, bobfa said:

    Chris, 

     

    Thanks for the review.  The Amazon listing and page do NOTHING to highlight this work as exceptional.

     

     

    bob --- in the cart ----

    I hear ya Bob.

     

    Nothing beats real human intelligence and experience, as opposed to AI and programatic web pages :~)

     

    This is one that surprised me. I'm listening to it right now!

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    Hearing is believing! Except for some members of the high end “press”

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    I love music and theater of the mind.  I'll never allow video into my listening room. 

     

    You often mention going to concerts. So you close your eyes during the performance? 😄

     

    but seriously, I really wish they would make these BluRays available separately. However, in this case  I agree $140 is pretty good for all you get AND you get a free tote and lithograph if you preorder from Rhino from 6/1 through 6/18.

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    Chris, I assume there are lpcm files on the blurays for those of us neanderthals who are still primitive enough to listen in stereo. If so, what is the bit and sample rate?

     

    Thanks for the great heads-up on this box set. 

     

    Joel

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    1 hour ago, joelha said:

    Chris, I assume there are lpcm files on the blurays for those of us neanderthals who are still primitive enough to listen in stereo. If so, what is the bit and sample rate?

     

    Thanks for the great heads-up on this box set. 

     

    Joel

    Hi Joel, the Blu-ray Disc has 24/48 versions of the tracks. Not sure what the treaming services will offer yet. 

     

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    10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Hi Joel, the Blu-ray Disc has 24/48 versions of the tracks. Not sure what the treaming services will offer yet. 

     

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    You're a good man, Chris.

     

    Thanks. 

     

    Joel

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    As much as I disagreed with your assessment of Europe 72, I now find myself in complete agreement with you with regards to Eric Clapton. I have been a massive fan for over 50 years and have purchased most of his albums as they were released. I prefer his blues over his rock though sometimes there is a very fine line between the two. I had always felt that 24 nights along with the 2005 Cream reunion show to be his best live recordings. And I, like you, was very impressed with Lady in the Balcony and consider it to be one of my benchmarks in Atmos audio. If that wasn't enough I was also very disappointed with the Grrr Live! audio (however the video is exceptional). Since I do not yet own the Atmos release of 24 Nights, I cannot speak to the quality of the audio but I sure am excited to hear it, especially Worried Life Blues, which on Riding with the King was extraordinary. All in all it seems our musical obsessions have much in common. There's only one big difference. You get advanced copies. I wish I were you Chris!!!

     

    Good Job

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    The Cream Live at Royal Albert Hall Blu ray has a reference DTS HD MA track.

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    Hello Chris,

     

    Thank you for the great review.  Do you know if the videos will be available for streaming/download? I am not finding much information if so.   

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    4 minutes ago, VinceBlack said:

    Hello Chris,

     

    Thank you for the great review.  Do you know if the videos will be available for streaming/download? I am not finding much information if so.   

    That’s a good question Vince. My guess is it will not be. 

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    I finally got my hands on these releases and have listened to the entire blues release. Chris does not do video so I thought I would briefly comment on the video first. Since it was recorded in 1990, it is standard def video, probably 525 lines of resolution given it was shot in the UK. Clearly unconverted to 1080p it looks about as you would expect. What I liked about the video is that it wasn’t’ just a 4x3 image in a 16x9 window. They used multiple camera shots at times in boxes to fill out the screen. Very well done considering to source material. As for the Atmos track, it is mastered at low volume so you have to crank up the volume a good bit. When I did, I initially thought it sounded like a very good traditional 5.1 mix. But as I continued to listen, I began to appreciate what was going on. The music is presented seemingly in front of the screen and speakers. Excellent separation and space between the instruments rock solid in the soundfield, with a sense of roundness of three dimensionality to each of the performers with a sense that they are right in front of you. Very nice bass reproduction, forceful but not bloated. This is a damn good Atmos mix, showing what this tech is capable of doing. It was amazing watching Buddy Guy and Albert Collins perform. They really tore it up. I had never seen them perform before. Personally, I think that the video adds rather then distracts from the listening experience. All the musicians were spectacular. It was a joy watching this concert from start to finish. Wow is an apt description of the experience.

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    Just got it in, been listening to CDs and the Bluray.  I’ll have to say the ATMOS mix is outstanding!  Video as described by Joe, I enjoyed it!

    Overall a great listen!

     

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    Hi Chris, it's nice to get some technical feedback on the new set.  I was working in an independent music store in 1991, when the original recording came out on CD and Cassette (we didn't sell LPs any more back then and I don't recall it being available) and I have the VHS and the DVD set and OLD LOVE is actually my favourite song of Clapton's of all time.  The version on the double CD from 1991 is taken from one of the 9 Piece Band nights and is 13 minutes and 1 second of absolute BLISS and the lead break has caused me to weep on the right day.  This version (

    ) in my opinion is better than both versions on the new Blu-Rays as they seem slightly too fast compared to this version.  I spent $115 getting the 2 LP version to my door here in NZ only to discover that the Old Love on that is only 7min55secs and the lead break is not the one for me.  Closest is the Orchestral version, I love that,  I would love to know what you think!

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    1 minute ago, KoozedNZ said:

    Hi Chris, it's nice to get some technical feedback on the new set.  I was working in an independent music store in 1991, when the original recording came out on CD and Cassette (we didn't sell LPs any more back then and I don't recall it being available) and I have the VHS and the DVD set and OLD LOVE is actually my favourite song of Clapton's of all time.  The version on the double CD from 1991 is taken from one of the 9 Piece Band nights and is 13 minutes and 1 second of absolute BLISS and the lead break has caused me to weep on the right day.  This version (

    ) in my opinion is better than both versions on the new Blu-Rays as they seem slightly too fast compared to this version.  I spent $115 getting the 2 LP version to my door here in NZ only to discover that the Old Love on that is only 7min55secs and the lead break is not the one for me.  Closest is the Orchestral version, I love that,  I would love to know what you think!

    I love hearing info like this! Thanks so much @KoozedNZ!

     

    I will check this version out for sure :~)

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