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    Magico, Merging Technologies, and Matan

    <img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/m-q-thumb.jpg" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left">I'm on Flight 310 to Minneapolis on New Year's Eve as the clock ticks toward 2010. A pair of Ultimate Ears UE11 Pro earphones are sealing my ears from the overbearing ambient noise of the airplane and a little Thelonious Monk coursing through the cables. I spent the last couple days in the San Francisco Bay Area at loudspeaker manufacturer Magico's and CA Symposium sponsor Tim Marutani's facilities. I have so much exciting information to share from this trip that I must begin telling the story from seat 17F aboard a Boeing 737-800 at 30,000 feet. At the Magico facility in Berkeley, less than a block from legendary Fantasy Studios, I spent many hours listening to the new Q5 loudspeakers. There is honestly nothing like the Q available today. At the Marutani Consulting facility I delivered a freshly built Zalman TNN300 highly tweaked silent music server. The server will house what I consider the best digital interface available right now. A Merging Technologies Mykerinos audio card with AES and word clock in and out. In addition to hearing the Q5 and Mykerinos card I visited with Matan Arazi. Matan showed me his finished music server. It's an all-out-assault on state of the art computer based playback that's been in the making for over one year. All three of these products raise the bar to new heights. They contribute to what I consider a new sonic reference.

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    <b>Magico Q5 Loudspeakers</b>

     

    <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/home.jpg" class="thickbox" rel="magico"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/home-25.jpg" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left" alt="q5 01"></a>There is a new paradigm in loudspeaker design and performance. Magico just raised the bar to a completely new level. The Magico Q5 loudspeaker is the best loudspeaker I've ever heard anywhere. There isn't a single product on the market today that's capable of this level of performance. The design and engineering that went into creating the Q5 are second to none and the results are sonically extraordinary. The Magico Q5 is absolutely over the top. No hesitation or qualifying statements are needed with this opinion. Think of all the superlatives in the book and they'll work wonderfully in a sentence with the Q5 loudspeakers. There are good reasons the Q5 loudspeakers are the best I've ever heard. There is no MDF or any other "traditional" material in the speaker cabinet. The Q5 consists of an all aluminum enclosure that weights nearly 400 pounds per channel. Sure the weight of the speaker doesn't mean anything in and of itself, but it's one indication that Magico has something special in the Q5. Magico's Alon Wolf brought me to the production floor where he has a Q5 without a side and rear panel. This allows a view into how much engineering and build quality are in the Q5. I've seen cross sections and the inside of many loudspeakers over the years, but nothing compares to the Q5. The all metal internals make all speakers built with wood instantly obsolete. This new design nearly removes all sympathetic resonances from the cabinet. I use the term "nearly" because it's impossible to remove all cabinet noise just like it's impossible to remove all jitter from digital components. But, the resonances coming from the Q5 cabinet have no effect on the sound because they are reduced to miniscule levels and are only present in the inaudible frequency ranges. Listening to hours of great music it was even better than listening to Alon Wolf backup all his design decisions with objective measurements. The measurements are 100% necessary, but not nearly as fun as listening. We started the listening session with some Reference Recordings 24/176.4 HRx files from the Dallas Wind Symphony. Never before have I heard anything like this. Top to bottom the highest highs and lowest lows had tremendous separation and were clear as can be on every track. At low volumes one can hear the crash of a cymbal, the bang of a drum, and the tap of a xylophone all at once. On many systems all these sounds get bunched up into a loud boom with no delineation of instruments or at least nothing close to the clarity and separation of the Q5. The Q5s start and stop quicker than anything I've ever heard before. They don't memorialize an event or transient with a slow decay that's not present in the recording.

     

     

     

    <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/magicoq03.jpg" class="thickbox" rel="magico"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/magicoq03-25.jpg" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left" alt="q5 02"></a>While there are other aluminum loudspeakers on the market none of them come close to the sound quality of the Q5. One major reason is the Q5 is not a re-hashed old speaker design and it does not contain inexpensive off the shelf drivers like many other loudspeakers. It contains all new Magico designed drivers. A single six inch Magico Nanotech cone used in the Q5 costs more than all the drivers put together in many loudspeakers. New to the Magico lineup is a Beryllium tweeter. After listening to the Q5 for hours on end I must say this tweeter is one for the ages. I didn't feel one ounce of listening fatigue the whole time. Frequently Beryllium tweeters get a bad name for being far too bright. The Q5s didn't have a scintilla of brightness during any recording. The mid-bass and woofers are also stellar and what I've come to expect from Magico. All new designs must not only be better than the competition, but better than previous versions of Magico designs. In addition to the visible aspects of the Q5 I was fortunate enough to see the new Q5 cross-over. This is one very impressive cross-over that has components sourced from the best manufacturers on the globe. Spending hundreds of dollars on a single piece of the cross-over network is standard fare for Magico and the Q5. After seeing all that goes into its speakers and Magico the company one can begin to separate the wheat from the chaff in high end audio. Perpetual improvement and investing heavily in research & development is what Magico is all about. The success of Magico's M5, announced at last year's CES, has allowed Magico to reinvest in the company and bring all cabinet fabrication in-house. This has allowed Magico to price the Q5 at $54,000 instead of well over $100k. This isn't an inexpensive loudspeaker but I am willing to bet my reputation that the Q5 is the best of show at CES next week. I predict it will beat all loudspeakers at the show including those costing double and triple the price of the Q5.

     

     

     

     

     

    <b>Merging Technologies Mykerinos Audio Card</b>

     

    <img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/header_logo_01.png" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left">In addition to spending time at Magico I spent a considerable amount of time at Marutani Consulting. Readers may remember Tim Marutani was a co-sponsor and major part of the Computer Audiophile Symposium held last summer at Fantasy Studios in Berkeley, CA. Tim is a very unique audio dealer. He invests a considerable amount of time and money every year in research that elevates the level of playback he is able to provide his customers. Over the last several months Tim has been a beta test site for Reiff Audio and the Merging Technologies Mykerinos audio cards. Readers may be familiar with Merging and Mykerinos as part of a Pyramix digital workstation used in many top mastering facilities around the world. However, the solution Tim has been testing is an extremely customized version of the Pyramix software and hardware. In fact one could not purchase this solution today with any amount of money. It's simply not available ... YET. In addition to Marutani Consulting, The Audio Salon has become a beta test site for the Merging/Mykerinos solution. These two dealers will be testing hardware and software for Reiff Audio and Merging Technologies and hope to have a retail product in the near future. Reiff Audio is working directly with Merging Technologies, based in Switzerland, to refine its products for the high end home market. Reiff awarded Marutani Consulting and The Audio Salon the first two dealerships in the country. At the time of this writing the software and hardware solution should be around $12,000.

     

     

     

    <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/X30-No-Bkgrnd.png" class="thickbox" rel="merging"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0103/X30-No-Bkgrnd-50.png" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left" alt="merging 01"></a>Over the last couple days in the Bay Area I listened to the Mykerinos cards with Pyramix software extensively. I've concluded without a doubt this solution is part of a new reference level of playback in computer based audio. The music server I listened to most was a Zalman TNN300 with Windows XP and a Mykerinos card with Pyramix software. I can't stress enough that this solution is not an off-the-shelf Pyramix workstation like the ones in used at mastering facilities all over the world. It has the same lineage but is vastly different. Readers chomping at the bit to pick up one of these solutions will only be disappointed if they purchase a Pyramix workstation as configured for the pro audio market. Back to the sound. The sound I heard the last couple days was extremely detailed and lacked any obvious digital noise. The sound coming from the Zalman server was the music only without extraneous digital hash. Before hearing the Mykerinos Pyramix solution I had no idea that my current Lynx based solutions had so much noise mixed in with the audio. I still think the Lynx AES16 cards are the best available in the sub $1,000 category, but they don't hold a candle to the Mykerinos solution I heard this week in the Bay Area. Merging Technologies not only manufactures the Mykerinios cards but also develops the software used with the cards. This total control over playback is likely a big factor in the sound quality. The software solution is designed to work specifically with the hardware and vice-versa. Neither one works without the other. In a way it's like an active loudspeaker designed to work perfectly with the amplifier onboard. One can achieve an incredible synergy between the components.

     

     

     

    I hope to have one of the Mykerinos cards and Pyramix software in about one week. I will keep the Computer Audiophile readers abreast of what I consider the best card available for computer based playback. Readers interested in hearing one of these systems sooner rather than later will have this opportunity at CES next week. The TAD suite and Magico suite will each feature a music server with a Mykerinos card running Pyramix software.

     

     

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    <b>The Matan Server</b>

     

    In the Bay Area I was also able meet up with Matan Arazi. Matan has been working on an incredible music server that I believe has no equal in terms of sound quality and build quality. Attendees of the CA Symposium were able to hear a somewhat early version of the server and see an unfinished chassis. After many man hours that number well into the four digits Matan has finally finished the server. I examined the over forty lbs. chassis and was in awe. It's a solid aluminum airtight enclosure that's second to none. The server is even pressurized and has different chambers housing the components. There is copper shielding for the audio card and a second chassis is available for disk storage. I was not able to hear the final version of the Matan server. I've heard it several times in the past and each time was amazed at what I heard. I can only imagine how well this final product sounds. Matan did not have the final price of the unit worked out. I'm sure the unit will not be inexpensive, but when was the last time the best of anything was affordable by all? I know I can't afford a Matan server, but I look forward to reviewing one in the not to distant future.

     

     

     

     

     

    Please visit the following sites for much more information about the aforementioned products and many others each manufacturer has to offer.

     

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    "antiquated technology"<br />

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    Newer isn't always better, is just has the opportunity to be...

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    Hi Beetlemania - Thanks for the comments. I have heard the Vandersteen 7, Avalon Isis, and TAD Reference One. All great speakers, but no Q5 in my opinion. <br />

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    <i>"t's not like these other designers are idiots or are resting on laurels of past glory."</i><br />

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    You are 100% correct for the most part. Andrew Jones of TAD is a fabulous designer and has created excellent speakers. I actually listened to the Compact Reference on Wednesday for a while. Andrew will be using the Mykerinios card and Zalman music server this year at CES. I may be a bit biased because the case will have the CA logo on it :~)<br />

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    <i>"BTW, I really enjoy Computer Audiophile – please don’t become the next Valin!"</i><br />

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    Thanks very much for the kind words and logical disagreement. No worries about becoming anyone else :~)

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    Hi Machinehead - Thanks for the post. Magico will be using a Matan server with the Swiss card this year. These guys have the option of using any equipment in the world and they're going with the Mykerinos.

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    "The best there is " statements without qualifiers and context sets - particularly with respect to speakers, given room intereactions and upstream equipment impacts - should be avoided.<br />

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    To take from first hand experience. I spent a most choice day auditioning speakers in the $30-$45k range, to wit the Magico V3, Rockport Aquila & Ankaa, and Verity Audio Parsifal in a well treated demonstration room. To reduce independent variables, room acoustics, upstream equipment and music selections were essentially constant. <br />

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    Suffice I went into the audition process expecting to be duly impressed, if not blown away, by the Magico. To my surprise I discovered that they are not a good match for my ears. Clearly there are many for whom they resonate, I am not one. Which led me to conclude that speaker matching is an individual taste, call it idiosyncratic. <br />

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    Hence, "Your best is probably not mine"...<br />

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    <i>"I feel the DAD, EMM Labs, Playback Designs and the PM2 are the best converters made... period."</i><br />

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    - Bruce Brown <a href="http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Digital-Audio-Denmark-DAC#comment-14394">Link</a><br />

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    <i>"I know where there are about 5 or 6 PM2's that were picked up from a film co. that went under. They are going for ~$8k.. I think I just might pick up one!"</i><br />

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    <i>"I know where there are about as many people that want the PM2 as there were made. It would be great if they did come out with a PM3 that was as good or better than the original. It would be a hard act to follow!"</i><br />

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    - Bruce Brown <a href="http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Digital-Audio-Denmark-DAC#comment-14496">Link</a><br />

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    <i>"Hence, "Your best is probably not mine"..."</i><br />

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    I could never disagree with your statement. Although I still stand behind my statement, not in an arrogant way, but rather I am very confident in what I heard and know about this and other speakers. <br />

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    Thanks for the post.

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    Given your praise for the Q5 I am intrigued as to just how good they are.<br />

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    At the very least your advocacy is prompting me to contemplate a new audition ensemble.<br />

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    Perhaps Q5 vs Avalon Time (just released, would hope they are at CES) vs Rockport Aquila vs Wilson Maxx 3.<br />

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    Keep drinking that Kool-aid Mani.. You better hope it don't break down because you'll have an expensive door stop.<br />

    There are many more labels that use other converters that I feel are better than the RR recordings. <br />

    Thanks for the links Chris... I had to edit the remarks because I was called to the carpet from one of the Model 2 worshipers. I'm tired of the political BS and having to "watch what I say" because it might offend someone.<br />

    Yes, the Model 2 is in my top 5... but there are better. <br />

    The quote: "I feel the DAD, EMM Labs, Playback Designs and the PM2 are the best converters made... period." I'll have to drop the Model 2 now because it's NOT made anymore. I'm so glad I didn't pick one up now!<br />

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    I don't use and have never used a server because they're not as good as the professional workstations that we use everyday. That's why I didn't include a server in my list.<br />

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    Regards,

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    "I have heard the Vandersteen 7, Avalon Isis, and TAD Reference One. All great speakers, but no Q5 in my opinion. "<br />

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    For each of these, did you get an extended audition in the designer's soundroom where the system was maximally dialed in (which appears to be the case for your Q demo)?<br />

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    Looking forward to reading the CES reports . . .

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    Hi Chris,<br />

    I was at Goodwin Audio who have had a long history with Magico and the only dealer (i believe) to have the M5, M6 and V3 in the same room (i guess they have the whole line). in our listening we were saying we hope we can get the best of the M6 and the M5, notably, the great mids and top end of the M5 but get the M6's ability to pressurize a room, i.e. move air sufficient to the room size. i was wondering what size room you heard the Q5's in and if you think they have the ability to fill a large room. dimensions wise they seem to be closer to a V3 than M5 but volume wise, i think they are pretty close to the M5 (I am speaking of actual internal volume).<br />

    thanks,

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    "Well, if your main criterion is to get something sonically in the same league, you'll never buy a new DAC ;-)"<br />

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    Well, there's a well known pro recording engineer who posted here that his all-time favorite converter was the Model Two - at least up until the arrival of the $6k AD/DA that must not be named. ;-)<br />

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    Mani, I know you were kidding. If I had your DAC, I'd have said the same thing.<br />

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    Hi bherlihy - Wow a discussion that's on topic :~) I like it. I believe the Q5 has more internal volume than the M5. I don't want to guess at the room dimensions. Not small and not large. Hows that for subjective? I hope you can go back to Alan Goodwin's when the Q5s arrive.

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    "The card works with any AES capable DAC. Based on my experience I don't think this solution can be beat by any USB or FireWire interface or DAC available today."<br />

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    Given that this solution is a card only, there seem to be some assumptions in your statement above, Chris. Can you clarify?<br />

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    Out of curiosity, has any testing been done against the other interfaces, preferably into the same DAC, so we have the same analog stage, etc.?<br />

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    Perhaps your exuberance (upon discovering a grand new product) is showing? :)<br />

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    It should certainly be interesting to see if indeed the AES inputs (of top echelon DACs with Firewire inputs, such as Weiss or Metric Halo devices) fed by the Mykerinos can exceed the quality of the Firewire inputs. If the card is as good as you suggest, it should improve the capabilities of any DAC which we can connect to it.<br />

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    thanks for bringing this to our attention first, a great find. I look forward to reading more about it, as I doubt I'll hear it anytime soon.<br />

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    enjoy CES!<br />

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    "It should certainly be interesting to see if indeed the AES inputs (of top echelon DACs with Firewire inputs, such as Weiss or Metric Halo devices) fed by the Mykerinos can exceed the quality of the Firewire inputs."<br />

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    Good point, although it'd have to be a significant impovement to justify the extra cost, no?<br />

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    Mani.

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    It all makes sense now. It's just sour grapes isn't it? You've tried to get hold of a Model Two in the past, haven't been able to, and have therefore started dissing them - calling them 'antiquated' and suggesting that they cannot be serviced... when they definitely can. How very grown up of you.<br />

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    Along with your BS claim on the 'Searching For Sound, CES, Peachtree Nova' thread, I think you're showing your true colors...<br />

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    Mani.

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    "Good point, although it'd have to be a significant impovement to justify the extra cost, no?"<br />

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    one would think! :)<br />

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    but if Chris is correct and it brings digital sound reproduction to a whole 'nuther level, perhaps it will be justifiable.<br />

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    Hi all,<br />

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    CA discussions are becoming more and more redundant these days.<br />

    When every single thread comes down to the best available dac (and of course, everyone is having the best one), maybe it's time to close it.<br />

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    Too bad Chris is trying to bring new ideas and energy into this hobby, but all his efforts are ruined by hung-up people. Sad time, hope 2010 would have been a better year.<br />

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    Anyway, I've always been intrigued by Magico's way of resolving coupling between drivers and enclosure (in Europe, the equivalent would be Dynaudio with the Confidence range of speakers).<br />

    As a response to another post, not many other manufacters are using the same king of drivers. They are having a specific shape at the center, and made of specific materials too. That said, other (few) high-end brands are designing their drivers specifically, but at least Magico do.<br />

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    EDIT : forgot the mention Goldmund also.

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    In his article, Chris claimed that the Magico, Merging Technologies, and Matan products have raised the bar to new heights.<br />

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    My first thought, having read the article, was, “but what DAC was used for these listening sessions?” I mean, in order to have ‘heard the bar being raised’, the DAC must have been up to the job, right? I, along with two others, enquired about the DAC in question... and hence the ensuing discussion.<br />

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    Forgive me for ‘defending’ the Model Two. There is no other component that I own, or that exists right now, that I have a similar passion for. I am absolutely thrilled that it will be 'doing its stuff' in the Magico/Merging/Matan room at CES for everyone to hear.<br />

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    I'm happy for you Mani and am glad you have a passion for the Model 2<br />

    I have had 3 chances to get one but didn't pull the trigger. <br />

    I'm out of here.... headed to CES today.<br />

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    See everyone there!

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    Is there a way that I can selectively not receive emails on a thread, this thread in particular? I like the email feature but am tired of the war going on and don't really want to get an email for each additional shot across the bow. No offense guys but I don't have a dog in this fight....<br />

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    Rick

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    I have no problems with your passion for the Model Two.<br />

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    I'd likely have the same.<br />

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    I do think your 'true colors' comment was a bit unexpected here.<br />

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    cheers,<br />

    clay

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    I can appreciate it is the best you've heard, in your opinion. But to say it is the best on the market is a bit of a leap ... Have you heard every speaker on the market?

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    ..if we could all agree that, irrespective of our choice of words, what we write is nothing more than our own opinion. In my opinion. :)

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