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+1 for never heard of this guy. I was stationed in Germany at the time this was released so not surprised I missed it, well, that and the fact that it went under the radar pretty much everywhere. Listening now and agree with all stated above. As a vinyl guy, even though there are many copies available on Discogs they command a decent price. A Japanese issue with a different cover looks like the best deal, except for the shipping 🙁

what happened to the new sub(s) you were debating?

I see the new Knopfler ATMOS disc was limited to 2000 copies and is sold out, 2 up on Disogs for $100 each, I'll wait. Aren't they just encouraging us to rip the disc and pass it along if they have such a limited release? https://www.thesdeshop.com/products/exclusive-mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-limited-edition-blu-ray-audio

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I do have Windows 10 on the UP (I boot from a USB stick for the Linux NAA) so I may play with that for the fun of it, but since it now does what I want without putting the NAA in-between my server and the DAC, is there any advantage to using the NAA instead of the HDMI from the server?

If your device is visible on HQPlayer computer through NAA, playback should be possible. If it doesn't work, one possible reason may be: If you're using a device in HQPlayer, make sure that the device is disabled in Roon's audio settings. Only one process can access a device at one time. Other possible reason could be you were attempting to play an audio format (PCM or DSD sample rate) your DAC is not capable to play. HQPlayer stores per device settings so settings used with directly connected DAC and settings used with DAC connected through NAA are configured separately. Compare these two. If the above didn't help, look at HQPlayer log. You can access it through Tools > Log Viewer. Don't paste here long logs, just the part where "maranz-AVR" appears. There should be some error logged on the event when you start playback through NAA and it fails to play. Thanks for the detailed response. So the crux of the matter is I couldn't get the NAA to recognize the device using the USB to optical or HDMI. I was incorrect that the NAA detected the device using WASAPI. That was HQP on the server recognizing it and all other sound devices connected to the server, not the NAA. The NAA is a litte UP computer recommended by Miska running one of his Linux programs, which has worked fine with several devices using just USB. At this point since I got it all to work by going HDMI direct from my Roon server computer to the device, and I need the HDMI connection to play my Atmos files anyway, I'm just going to be happy with that solution.

Ok. I don't know what you mean by "OS audio device" but my problem was solved by NOT including the NAA in the chain I was trying use Roon over my network to the AV10 but Roon says it isn't certified so would only allow Airplay. if I connect my computer direct to the AV10 with HDMI, using Roon HQP player and select WASAPI-Marantz I can play music thanks for the prompt response YEA !!

I have a Marantz AV10 that doesn't accept USB input but does accept optical. It is not certified as a Roon device so trying to work around that until it is. I have a UP NAA so I bought a cheap USB to optical converter hoping that HQP would see it as an NAA input device, but no love. 1. is what I'm hoping to do impossible? NAA USB to SPDIF optical 2. Can my NAA pass audio thru the HDMI port.? Using HDMI out of the NAA and WASAPI , the NAA does report back to HQP that the AV10 is connected but it won't play any music to it using Roon 3. I tried to use just HQP as the player direct to HDMI (no Roon) but I can't get HQP to scan in any files to the library. I followed the manual but when I say scan or browse it doesn't bring anything in, is that because it's not a valid output? I think I'm trying to do things that just aren't possible?

I recently changed from the Trinnov to a Marantz AV10. (put $7K in my pocket and still have a 15.4 system) Want to move away from Roon and just play Qobuz and my local files. The AV10 says it is DLNA compatible so I'll try it... OH MY !!! JPlay connects as a HEOS device and I'm streaming Coltrane at 24/192 from Qobuz on my iPad to the AVR,,, very cool just need to configure the PC with all my local files so JPLay can find it and I should be in business THANKS !!!

No, I haven't read this whole thread but I have a question, I have Qobuz on my Windows PC playing via HDMI into my processor. I would like to use an app on a tablet to control it so I thought JPlay would do that since I can load it on my iPAD and it sees my Qobuz library, but all it will do is AirPlay to my processor. Maybe I'm misunderstanding and trying to get it to do something it isn't capable of? If I'm confused about JPlay's capabilities. is there an app that can control Qobuz on my PC so I can get the high resolution files instead of AirPlay? thanks

fair enough, but put yourself in an artists' shoes As an artist I get about a penny whenever somebody plays my song on Tidal. However, I also get exposure to someone that may never have heard of me that may come to my live show or buy something from me. In that sense it is much better than the days I had to get a label behind me to promote me and press my discs and get them into stores and pay disc jockeys to get me airplay. The labels have always had the upper hand and perhaps always will so streaming is just another version of that. If nobody streams me then nobody will ever hear about me. So as an artist at least I get out there and have a chance, and in today's environment it is one of the few chances I have.

I respect your opinion, but if you don't state why it is impossible to agree or disagree. "I don't stream" makes as much sense to me as "video does not belong in my listening room." If your goal is to support the artists, then the idea that someone avoids streaming when it would afford them access to music they would never otherwise experience makes no sense to me because you are then free to pay for downloads or physical media. Streaming and buying are not mutually exclusive. The idea that someone loves to go see live shows but refuses to recreate that experience in their home makes no sense to me either. Audio and video are symbiotic, so again, not mutually exclusive. Example .... I would probably never listen to an AC/DC album, but watching them perform live is mesmerizing. The energy they bring to a live performance is impossible to experience just listening to them. I know, off topic..... I'm done

even though you didn't link these 2 topics (price + streaming) it never ceases to amaze me when someone complains about the cost of a streaming service When I bought my first CD around 1985 it was about $50 in 2024 dollars. Now I have access to over 100,000,000 songs for less than $20 a month. Read that again. Cost per song in 1985 about $5 Cost per song in 2024 about $0.0000002 for what I spent for one song in 1985 I now have access to 25,000,000 songs, and that access continues to expand allowing me to listen to just about everything being released as it is released. yet in this article Tidal Review one of the cons of Tidal is the cost of it.

https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/best-dolby-atmos-soundbars-the-best-atmos-tv-speakers And, the very best Dolby Atmos soundbars are capable of immersing you in the action without the need for all the extra boxes that come with a traditional home cinema system. Some of these bars have even been fitted with dedicated upfiring speakers to help deliver an even more convincing 3D audio effect. https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/best-dolby-atmos-soundbars?op=1 The best Dolby Atmos soundbars can surround you in a dome of 3D audio, delivering an experience that traditional soundbars simply can't match. Dolby's popular spatial audio format is designed to elevate your home theater experience by swirling sound around and above the listening position. Soundbars that support this tech use a mix of targeted speakers and advanced software to bounce audio effects off your ceiling when listening to Dolby Atmos content. etc.

yes, he is a bit of a snarky prick, but makes at least one excellent point Those pushing Atmos , or any immersive platform for that matter, are lying to you when they make it "sound" like you can experience true immersion with a cheap sound bar or a set of headphones. As long as they continue to do this, and no reason to think they will stop, then the people who are unwilling to invest in a multi-speaker setup will continue to experience it is as he says it is. If you like the Atmos mix on a 2 channel system or a soundbar or headphones then that's great, but it will not be immersive like they want you to believe. He is also correct to point out that some services are moving to a business model where you have to pay extra to get the Atmos mix. While we may not like it, the model makes good sense for the streaming company. Since most people don't have a system capable of properly implementing Atmos, most people don't care if they have Atmos or not, so the company is wasting their time and money offering it to the masses. For an additional $5 or whatever it is a month, it will make a difference to those of us who do have system capable of doing it justice, so we will pay up to get it = more $$ for the company. That is, unless we drop the service altogether The thing this guy is pushing which is incorrect, , is the idea that this is all intended for the masses and since the masses will not buy the equipment they need to implement it, then it is all a waste of time. However, if you look at the plethora of high end equipment currently on the market with the most popular home theater pieces frequently sold out, and more and more immersive audio being developed (not just remixed stereo) it seems to me the market is big enough to support the format even if the masses don't truly buy in.