Langendorf Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi im new to streaming I have a few questions, i hope you can help me with. I have a pass int30a and would like to use the ballanced inputs, and i have been looking for dac´s. I have currently a young dac on loan. But it doesn't have ballanced out. And my budget is limited. So i have been looking for old used dac´s and 2 look interesting DCS Delius and Audioaero PRIMA SE converter I have contacted the seller of the Delius, and he tels me, that is the firewire version, and it has the newest firmware. Is it possible to use this strait from to computer with firewire? With the Prima i would think a M2Tech Evo would be in place? Maybe also with the Delius if the firewire can´t be used. As i know they both support 24/192 input, so i would think, that they both could be god options for todays hires streaming? If you have any troughs or input of any sort i would appreciate you input Thanks Link to comment
Elprior Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi Langendorf, I own the Delius, so I comment on this one. First of all, the firewire connection is proprietary, and does not act as a device for the computer. So you would need an external usb/firewire/ethernet to spdif converter. Then, the Delius does accept 24/192 from dual/aes connections only (except for firewire, but from another dCS product, not a computer). So, this limits your choice of interfaces to basically Weiss or dCS products. If you are budget limited, this will be a tough road (the Weiss int202 is still relatively affordable). Finally, the Delius without the Purcell upsampler does not sound that good, if you plan to use its volume control. But the Pass amp sure should be a good match. Hth, Elp Link to comment
Langendorf Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi Elprior That out rules the delius The pass is a integrated amp, so i will not be using the dac as a pre. But thanks for your relpy. i thought that it supported 24/192 with aes or coax at least The weiss is sadly way over my budget. Do you have any thoughts on other dac´s i should be looking at? Link to comment
Elprior Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I can't help you much with dacs. I may change my current dCS combo, but with either a Weiss, a MSB or the dac section of the Devialet D-Premier Right now I'm comparing several spdif interfaces before deciding to make a move. This test includes the BelCanto UsbLink (currently owned), the HiFace, the HiFace Evo, the Weiss Int202 and (the soon to be released, so I hope) Sonicweld Diverter 192. If the Young dac does behave like the HiFace(s), you may need to wait for the product to break-in (at least 100 to 200 hours I am told by my retailer) before jumping to a conclusion. In any case, you ought to listen at home, and consider external comments as hints merely (even here on CA), except for features inquiry (as you did). Elp Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Speaking of dCS I recommend listening to the Debussy. It now supports 24/192 via asynchronous USB. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Synfreak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Just to throw a few names in, which might be of interest: Grace M903 Mytek DAC 192 (DSD) (should be in shops at around august AFAIK) both sport USB (the Mytek even 'Firewire') and support samplingrates up to 192/24. The Antelope series would be also worth investigation in, and I#m sure other will keep some appoproate names coming ;-) Cheers Harald Esoterc SA-60 / Foobar2000 -> Mytek Stereo 192 DSD / Audio-GD NFB 28.38 -> MEG RL922K / AKG K500 / AKG K1000 / Audioquest Nighthawk / OPPO PM-2 / Sennheiser HD800 / Sennheiser Surrounder / Sony MA900 / STAX SR-303+SRM-323II Link to comment
johniboy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 just a comment: you can also use a lynx or rme soundcard to connect to the delius with up to 24/192. and those are not as expensive as a weiss int202. the "old" dcs dacs sound really nice in my option. Link to comment
Langendorf Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 I am playing at home with the young dac. And it have been on for the last week. I did hear dramatic changes the first 24 hours. But i cant get out of my head that i want ballanced I have heard the weiss, and it sounds really good, but its out of my price range. that is why im looking for used dac´s Im current have a benchmark dac, but im not satisfied with it. Link to comment
Langendorf Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hi Synfreak i havent heard about the mytek. I will do some searching! I dont have firewire, at the moment. But a firewire card can be bought cheap if that is necessary. I have been looking at the antelope gold. But that is still a bit much. But i have sent some mails to get some prices. I have heard that it should be really good Link to comment
Langendorf Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hi Chris way out of my price range Don´t any of you have any thoughts about the Audioaero PRIMA SE converter? Link to comment
Elprior Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Chris, I have had such a bad experience with dCS customer support that I decided not to buy a product from them anymore Elp Link to comment
reverendo Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 very interested in this thread... best regards André LDMS Minix Server>Lampizator TRP w/ VC>Gryphon Diablo>Heil Kithara Cables: Douglas Cables 'Mirage'', (Power); Douglas Cables 'Mirage' (XLR); Douglas Cables "GLIA" (speaker cables & jumper); FTA Callisto (USB) Accessories: Furutech GTX-D (G) with cover, MIT Z Duplex Super; Equitech Balanced Power, Sistrum (for Diablo & TRP) Link to comment
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