Mister Wednesday Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Greetings all, An article on The Los Angeles Times website about the upcoming release of Radiohead's new album, 'King of Limbs', in a high resolution format: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/03/radiohead-releases-studio-quality-king-of-limbs-downloads-.html Regards, Mister Wednesday Link to comment
bpchia Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Discussion over at the radiohead forum from those who have listened to it suggests that the files have come from the vinyl master rather than those released as the original download and CD. I'm very excited to grab these, hoping the back catalogue gets released eventually. Excuse the laziness at not searching for this first, but any way to burn your own SACD from 24bit files? Doubt it, never heard of recordable SACDs. I ask because I have an Esoteric SACD player but doesn't play DVD-A. Link to comment
Manelus Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 DVD-A is dead, SACD will die soon. Downloaded (or ripped) Hi Res files is the future. Just my opinion. Digital Sources: Linn Klimax DS and Audio Note CDT3 + Audio Note DAC 4.1x balanced.[br] Analog Source: Clearaudio Innovation + SME V tonearm + Benz Micro LP S cartridge.[br]Plinius Tautoro Preamp. - Plinius SA Reference Amp.[br]Dynaudio Sapphire Speakers + Velodyne Ultra Subwoofer.[br]Powercords: Elrod Statement Gold.[br]Interconnects and Speaker cables: Kubala-Sosna Elation.[br]Dedicated Power lines for HiFi Stuff. Link to comment
yoghurtlidlicker Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 you can buy it from http://www.7digital.com/artists/radiohead/the-king-of-limbs/ it is 24bit/44kHz. it is a bit better than Wav files available from Radiohead store. Link to comment
wgscott Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I bought the wav files when they made them available for king of limbs, and if there were an option for 24 bit then, I would have bought that instead. However, I ain't gonna re-purchase it. I mean, let's face it, a lot of their sound effects are basically distortion and noise. Link to comment
ted_b Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I can't believe they reward us early adopter/downloaders with a surprise 24 bit release that costs LESS than the February 18 download ($11 vs $14). An early response on the Hoffman forum says this: "They are 24 bit 44.1kHz FLACs. Anticipating your next question, peak limiting/RMS levels are identical to the previous 16 bit..." "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
bpchia Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Interesting photo of the cd vs vinyl rip waveforms of TKOL attached. By the way my earlier comment on the 24bit version perhaps being from the vinyl master is WRONG...it has the same compression as the 16bit version Link to comment
Joebah Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 "I mean, let's face it, a lot of their sound effects are basically distortion and noise." Pretty much true of all music, recorded or not. How the tongue is pressed against the mouthpiece, how the fingers press on the strings, how the foot pumps the wah-wah pedal... Music is, at its most fundamental, distortion and noise. Otherwise, the same instrument would sound exactly the same no matter who played it. (I purchased the flac - sounds good!) Office desktop: iMac ((Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) (4 GHz Intel Core i7) (512GB SSD) (32GB Ram)) => USB (Kimber Kable USB Silver) => V-Link 192 USB Input => V-Link Coax Output (AQ Sidewinder) => Schiit Bifrost Multibit Coax Input => Schiit Bifrost Multibit RCA Output => Schitt Pyst => Schitt Asgard 2 => (Audioquest - Mini-3) => Audioengine HD6 (slave connected with Audioquest Type 4 cable) (Pangea AC-14 Power Cord) (IsoAcoustic L8R155 stands) => Audioquest Sidewinders => Audioengine S8 Subwoofer Link to comment
fahadm Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hello, Thanks to the OP, I got my 24-bit FLAC copy today and compared it against the 16-bit WAV. Here are my comments: 1. Both 16-bit and 24-bit versions have the SAME analog compression. The Prism Orpheus RMS display was mostly yellow/orange, but never red, indicating high compression. So unfortunately, both are LOUD (albeit tastefully done). 2. Both versions are 44.1 khz. 3. The 24-bit sounds better than the 16-bit. Improvements include added "air" around instruments, especially guitars, cymbals, drums and backing vocals. Also, all sorts of little details "came out", which I previously didn't notice. 4. The image has more depth. I can hear instruments such as drums moving to the rear, and guitars/vocals coming to the front. 5. I didn't expect that adding 8 more bits would have such an impact to the sound on (arguably) the same master. I can conclude that the 16-bit CD format is perpetually flawed no matter how much $$$ or DACs you throw at it. 16 bits don't cut it!!! THERE IS NO SUBSTITUE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. Why can't the record labels understand that audiophiles want 24-bit vinyl masters? Can't they get it? How come MFSL (Mofi) gets it and no one else in the pop/rock genre? Mac mini (Pure Music) -> Prism Orpheus -> Manley Monoblocks -> Harbeth SHL5 Link to comment
ted_b Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 get $11 more dollars from me. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
wgb113 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 this was the "back to guitars" album? I downloaded the 24Bit FLAC last night and gave it a listen. Sonically it's compressed and it's too early to judge the music itself on one listen. Ah well, it was only $3 more than the CD. Bill Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Mac Mini->Roon + Tidal->KEF LS50W Link to comment
wgscott Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 "I didn't expect that adding 8 more bits would have such an impact to the sound". Every additional bit doubles the word-size. Link to comment
goldsdad Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 "Every additional bit doubles the word-size." No. Doubling the size of a 16-bit word requires another 16 bits, not another 1 bit. I'm sure you meant to say that each additional bit doubles the range of values per sample. Adding 8 bits results in a 256-fold increase in the range of values, therefore 256 times the amplitude resolution. Link to comment
new_media Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 No way to burn a SACD that I know of. Remember that SACDs use Direct Stream Digital (DSD) which is a completely different sampling algorithm from PCM. I did burn a DVD-A from the FLAC files using the app from Cirlinca and it plays back nicely using my Denon combo player. Link to comment
new_media Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Radiohead released a 12" vinyl for Record Store Day in the UK that included two tracks leftover from the King of Limbs sessions, "Supercollider" and "The Butcher." If you pre-ordered The King of Limbs from Radiohead's website, you can now download the two new tracks in WAV format. I just downloaded them and discovered that they are 24-bit. One is 24/44.1 and the other is 24/48. Nice. Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Nice stuff, but still sounds too much like Nigel and Thom are waggging this dog. Eraser Part Two. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
jerry_rig Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 If you pre-ordered The King of Limbs from Radiohead's website, you can now download the two new tracks in WAV format. Thanks! I just did. Nice that they're higher res. Link to comment
wgscott Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 This is great. But they never emailed to tell me... How did you find out? Link to comment
wgscott Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Oh, check this out: Creep by Radio Ed aka Guardian news staff. Link to comment
new_media Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 A friend of mine tipped me off, but I did eventually receive an email from them. Link to comment
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