TIDAL ... WTF???

[miguelito]

Why does the TIDAL app on mac default to some completely imbecile settings when it updates?

 

WHAT THE FECK???

 

I did not want loudness or anything but Master quality before updating.

 

What idiot is deciding it is ok to reset all setting to shite mode?

 

As you can tell I am truly pissed.

[miguelito]

3 hours ago, RickyV said:

Thanks for the info. Loudness normalization it is called. Analyse this:

 

https://www.audioxpress.com/news/tidal-implements-album-loudness-normalization-and-activates-it-by-default-for-mobile-players

My main frustration is setting it up properly, then updating and having all this set back to defaults. That is not a matter of taste, it is basic software practice and any developer telling me they have to reset default every time is simply an idiot.

[miguelito]

19 hours ago, RickyV said:

So after an update I check settings every time.

My point is this is pretty bad practice from the development team. Does not happen with any high quality software that I am aware of.

[miguelito]

12 hours ago, Jud said:

Used to be called "POLA" - Principle of Least Astonishment

It maximizes my anger to find that what I set has been reset.

[miguelito]

49 minutes ago, PAR said:

Miguelito has a dCS Rossini DAC. So he already has the dCS streamer ( it's inbuilt). So I am puzzled why he isn't using it with the Mosaic controller. It will almost certainly sound better then feeding Tidal from a mac. Roon integration I suppose. But then he won't be using the Tidal app either.

I often use the TIDAL and Qobuz apps on my computer (away from my main system). In my main system I use Roon, not Mosaic.

[miguelito]

1 hour ago, Abtr said:

I think Tidal may have fixed this. I still check after each update but the settings didn't change with the last 4 or so updates..     

My TIDAL updated yesterday and you're correct: it kept my settings... Thx.

[miguelito]

2 minutes ago, miguelito said:

52 minutes ago, PAR said:

Miguelito has a dCS Rossini DAC. So he already has the dCS streamer ( it's inbuilt). So I am puzzled why he isn't using it with the Mosaic controller. It will almost certainly sound better then feeding Tidal from a mac. Roon integration I suppose. But then he won't be using the Tidal app either.

I often use the TIDAL and Qobuz apps on my computer (away from my main system). In my main system I use Roon, not Mosaic.

Also should point out that I also use Audirvana on my computer(s) away from my main system. However, I find Audirvana a bit like Windows 3.1 when it comes to searching for stuff. Plus the only way to buy Qobuz downloads (that I am aware of) is the Qobuz computer app.

[miguelito]

4 hours ago, PAR said:

You can go straight to the Qobuz download store without passing through the desktop app.

You're absolutely correct, but then I cannot listen or browse or search or look at my favorites as easily from the web-based store.

[miguelito]

1 hour ago, Rexp said:

10 hours ago, miguelito said:

I often use the TIDAL and Qobuz apps on my computer (away from my main system). In my main system I use Roon, not Mosaic.

If you're ever bored, I would be interested in a comparison of Roon v Mosaic

I'll be perfectly honest: I don't love to do those comparisons. Why? Because at some level I have to actively stay away from futzing around with a myriad of comparisons that detract me from the music. Roon over RAAT sounds great, the user experience is unparalleled, and I just want to avoid rabbit holes...

 

However, since you asked... My expectation is that Mosaic would be the gold standard and Roon over RAAT (ie network) would be ever so slightly not as good. But like I said, this is speculation.