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8 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

How the hell do you know that ?

 Have you ever considered the setting up costs ,and economy of scale for very  limited production runs, and the possible  temporary shutting down of normal production lines in order to do this ?

Agreed, the wanker in the you tube is poo-poohing the price for a Nagra portable battery pack, and can make something cheaper by brainless and and being totally ignorant of commercial reality. Miska explains in that thread realities of costs, and there's the liability thrown in as well. Even to setup a cable creation line on its own doesn't leave much change of $500k ++, let alone the setup costs for the tooling, which is $200k+.

 

I recall a post at Gearslutz who bought a reel of Monster Cable speaker that wasn't used that often, and ended up under the bench for some time. After a clean up, the cable drum was moved and the insulation fell off like an autumnal event. So it's not just good looks, the stuff has to last.

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17 minutes ago, BrokeLinuxPhile said:

 

What, may i ask, do you expect to gain by referring to people as brainless?  I hope you were not referring to myself, because all i was having was having an adult discussion about a post someone made.  I've worked professionally as an engineer since the 90's so I assure you I am not brainless.

 

In the thread you mentioned, Miska mentioned personal experiences designing a product, as did I.  Neither person was wrong, each were our own PERSONAL experiences, and not in any way fabricated by anyone.  Have you ever even been on an engineering design team professionally?  Don't pass judgement on those of us who have gone through the process countless times.

 

It's when people start yelling BS...or start calling each other trolls, or braindead....that these discussions get out of hand.  How about "I believe you are incorrect and here's why..."   Stop attacking people and attack statements instead and all this nonsense disappears.

 

You have to have devil's advocates to keep the con jobs in check.  Just because we point out flaws in arguments made or products sold does not mean we are attacking or insulting any person in any way.

 

Errrm, I did quote "the wanker in the video", please read, this still stands. If I had a differing opinion in the "Nagra Lithium Battery Power Pack" thread and especially your posts,  I would have commented accordingly. I haven't, so? Don't worry. The presenter in that video, does NOT appreciate the amount of development in the three PCBs to maintain charge and protection systems for that battery. After all, that battery pack provides power to a product that Nagra supports, and the recorder is not cheap either. If Nagra let loose and provided a just 12V power input jack (like RME), where's the reliability then? Any overvolts and the recorder is toast.

 

For the last 30 years, I work with decisions that engineering teams make on projects totalling some $billions, so yes I have worked on an engineering team here and there. Civility went out the window at CA, AS a few years ago, just like a lossless audio file being converted to MP3, it's an irreversible process of no return to the good stuff.

 

 

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