5G - Are We Safe Or Insane?

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1 hour ago, Mayfair said:

Super high frequency crickets...

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/04/science/sonic-attack-cuba-crickets.html

 

 

 

Very interesting article, thanks for sharing it right here. 

 

And few months (four) earlier:

▪https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html

▪ https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.4809876/microwaves-behind-sonic-attacks-on-canadian-and-u-s-diplomats-says-doctor-1.4809885

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45 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

 

What???

 

Simple good humor. 

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Yesterday mansr mentioned "Hardon" ... must have been a simple typo, safe to say. 

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▪ https://www.rfpage.com/what-are-5g-frequency-bands/

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Equipment

 

▪ https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5g-release-date,review-5063.html

 

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▪ https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-can-you-do-with-a-5g-smartphone/

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5G & Huawei equipment versus security ... + all that 5G world jazz.

• https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/huawei-5g-ban-in-germany.html

 

• https://www.cnet.com/news/canadian-ban-on-huaweis-5g-tech-will-trigger-repercussions-says-china/

 

As a member of the North Pacific accord (North America - Canada), I found sad the situation of 5G Huawei (China), USA, Canada, Mecico, Germany, Australia, France, Europe, UK, Brazil, and other economic leading countries of the future telecommunication system of 5G (China leadership). Security is number one priority in this climatic world; no one wants to be controlled more than we already are with our electronics...computers, laptops, tablets, cell phones, TVs, receivers, servers, ...anything collecting personal and private information (data) through apps, browsers, cameras/microphones on all our devices, family pictures, travel pictures, browsing habits, bank accounts, credit cards, passwords, love life, friends, ... all the things that are private in our lives. The music we listen too and the gear we use are our decisions to share with other hobbyists like us. And if the good looking people want to share selfies on Instagram it's their business, not the hackers and spies business. 

 

We have enough problems as it is with the news channels, Amazon, Google, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Yahoo, Gmail, all those apps of the wireless Internet ... without getting wack on top of it by some 5G control freaks. 

 

Soon they'll laser beam up with chips in our brain too. 

China seems to take pleasure @ copying everything and installing super miniature spying devices in their electronics. Huawei I'm sure is not the only company to play that game. 

 

Brief it is a very sad reality, and it is extremely hard to find those super miniature spying devices the size of a micron. You need a super powerful microscope to even see behind the invisible. 

You probably heard and see some pictures on that subject, so I won't post any link.

 

I admit that my knowledge on Huawei with their products and the 5G technology is quite restricted. I just know that several countries ban their 5G phones and more countries are considering. It is alarming. 

 

 

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Just a positive suggestion: Extend the Edit time by say 24 hours. 

I cannot correct my typos, it is frustrating.

I cannot add to a post recently made with important flowing words, sentences. 

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How important is national security? Very.

How much do you value your privacy? Me, very much so in this crazy world. 

 

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30 minutes ago, MetalNuts said:

 

Indeed, previously the medical practitioner advised that patients  must take all the antibiotics prescribed even they had recovered before all the prescribed antibotics were taken. 

 

Now, some have different view and advise patients it is not necessary to take all!  So why there is a different theory or outcome.  Super germ/virus is a result of the abuse use of antibiotics, the scientists have no idea of the whole picture and treat the human lives at a piece meal.  You may recover your pneumonia by taking antibiotics but you actually help breeding some super germs/virus.  Ironic, isn't it?

 

14 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

 

If you want to see "heavily biased" watch the refs in the Saints game.

 

47 minutes ago, wgscott said:

Good point.  Next time you get pneumonia, treat it with prayer, rather than antibiotics.

 

Related to 5G? Lol

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You have a point there. Brain damage people from 5G radio wave frequencies are going to need some medical treatments and prescription drugs @ another point. 

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3 minutes ago, wgscott said:

 

Except the only brain damage is from irrational fear of the unknown.

Do you have scientific evidence? It will take few years before enough data is collected. 

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That ^ plus nobody is ignorant in this thread here. We're all learning on a same equal level, with the utmost respect for each other, using and intelligent language of communication, universal...sweet peaceful melodies from ultra fast/high 5G radio wave frequencies. ...English? Of course English, not French, Italian, German or Mexican. 

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Music (humor):

 

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Google must know something more than I know ...

 

Are we getting more disconnected (with our health, out vital human values, our natural environment...wildlife animals, forests, plants, air, water, humans, ...) by being more connected and faster connected? If so, then why are we living by old rules of laws (here 1996) that are killing us more and faster?

 

I've read many scientific articles, commentaries from expert doctors, mathematicians, physicists, biologists, ...all with PhDs and highly respected by their scientist peers, watched videos (like the above and many others), shared my findings from those, listened the non-concerned people, the minority of few concerned ones, being ridiculed, insulted, taken for a charlatan, an ignorant, an out-of-touch reality repugnant, a traitor, a mentally handicapped, a nobody. 

 

I thought to start this thread right here to see if everyone was right or just dreaming an impossible dream. And, this is only 5G that we're talking about here...much more "immersive" than anything before...3G and 4G.

 

Just imagine starting a thread about electric and electronics! 

...Like electric cars (good) and music/movie servers connected to the Internet highspeed highway with super fast telecommunication technology. 

Is 5G better with ICE cars or with electric cars? 

 

Do we need more factories making foil paper as a fire retardant suits? 

Do we look like Marvel superhero comics? ...With 5G implemented in our suits? 

...To alert us of imminent dangers from global warming, climate changes, forest fires, ozone layer, gas emission levels, toxic emulsions, eruptions, emails, ...?

To let us know fast that the prescriptions drugs we are taking against radiations are the wrong prescriptions because the pharmaceutical companies falsified their reports on their real effects and the doctors simply bought their formula? 

 

Are we more concerned by what we have (money, luxury items, cars, yachts, room services, fancy food, expensive cigars and cognac, ultra high end tape cassette decks, etc., etc., etc.) than who we are? ...Our family values, our health, our respect for our planet and humanity and our environment and our space, air, water and dirt? 

 

Are we going to let hazardous materials (electrical posts, like in dry areas), rule our lives and burn our houses and incinerate our communities? ...More posts, more transformers, more electronic boxes, ...more wireless brain for more and faster human damage. 

 

We don't think before we build; we just do it blindfolded like blind people and regardless of the real consequences that matter the most...the human brain cells preservation. 

 

But I'm sure I'm already @ the point of no recuperation. So why even bother?

I want to live my life in the ultra fast lane, leave me alone it is my right the law says so, written in 1996. I abide by the laws, I'm an obedient citizen, I pay my taxes, I vote for the right people, and I eat meat (steaks & eggs and mashed potatoes). 

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51 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

I can understand the health concerns about 5G. As I said, for mobile phone use, it's been discussed for 20 years, so nothing new.

 

But I'm very confused by this post. It reads as very 'panicky' lol.

 

 

No no, you read it on your own "panicky" perception. 

We go ahead, that 1996 old law gives us the permission. We should be safe, the law says so, no worries. 

 

Yes, it was a short humorous essay with a dose of reality mixed with some sarcasm to let the readers free to explore themselves. I enjoyed watching the short video you provided; it sure detonated a reaction. That's what you have read in that post, nothing more nothing less, and no panick from my part because there are other things too that are alarming as much if not higher and faster. We're in a 5G zone now, about to explode tremendously. We are learning as we go, but some experts know more than we do.

And that, is what we're talking about; their expert studies and factuel results.

Us we are just audiophile style members analysing 5G pros and cons from both sides.

 

Sure, we've been talking about mobile phones for over twenty years; there's no reason to not talk about it more now, not @ the precipice of 5G implementation.

 

And, it's an advanced, more accentuated ball game; in that sense it's completely new.

Why do you say "nothing new"? 

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6 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

This part is cool of course.

 

 

I already said it further back in the thread.. Neurosurgeon Dr Charlie Teo was talking about it back in 2009 (talking about mobile phones) and I shared a link to the 2009 article...

 

The 5G concerns are an extension of the same concerns around mobile phone use.

 

This is him talking in 2017

 

 

 

Alright.

 

Tablets too are going to be impregnated with 5G, not just cell phones. 

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Additional informative reading links:

▪ https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-5g-wireless-devices-will-do-that-4g-cannot/

 

▪ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/dont-buy-a-5g-smartphone-at-least-not-for-a-while/

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I'm watching/listening to your last posted video right now. 

 

I started a subject on this website with brand new people who I enjoy reading their reviews and experiments ... in all domains of audio, digital, sounds, music servers, MQA, Tidal, Roon, DSP,  Stereo, Mono, Multichannel, High Resolution, Streaming, DACs, SACD Players, Amplifiers, Speakers, Computers, Cards, Programs, Chips, Lifestyles ...

 

I thought it would be a good idea to discuss a subject that we have been discussing for the last twenty years, in addition to audio electronics progress, Computers, ...all that style jazz, and get into the 5G bandwagon just for the fun interest of it, just for living that reality, that expansion, tremendous expansion. ...With all our individual styles to have a wider vision of knowledge. 

 

I am much more advanced today than when I started this thread. 

And it's a very very very good thing, for me and anyone else who has an interest in it to explore and discover more. It fits, in my opinion, the style here, including radio wave transmissions on a higher and faster level. 

 

We have been talking about audiophiles for the last eighty-eight years (approximately);

5G is not even here yet. 

 

I can talk about audiophiles for the next hundred years, we are in a 5G zone here.

My other favorite threads are stereo versus multichannel audio/music, analog versus digital, record music mastering over the years, microphones, live music, films (I would like to see a forum section as it is also one of my style interests plus the movie soundtracks, sound effects, etc., including documentaries from heaven), and of course the music we love listening to and old and new;  from rock to blues to classical to jazz to electronica fusion to new age to alternative to international to opera to calypso to tango and gypsy. ...Small and big ensembles. 

 

5G ... Faster Telecommunication and much much more...

 

 

 

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Em, I finished viewing the last video you posted, very good...ty.

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This one is funny but in a scary style of way ...

 

I'm not easily scared; I can watch horror flicks and found most of them more comedic. 

Two very recent ones (2018) I liked more are A Quiet Place and Hereditary.

But still I wasn't scared; I like Emily Blunt's performance, and in both films I like the audio soundtracks (sound mixes), very. 

 

And it is scary to see a tree (I worked in forests for most of my life), with an electronic transmitter/transformer of high frequency radio waves attached to it. 

Trees are life, oxygen, balance of planet's climate, so it's ironic, big time. 

 

* I like that: "Don't forget to tip your waiters."

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1 hour ago, Em2016 said:

 

Lol so I shared a video with a Neurosurgeon, a Professor, showing snippets of a doctor speaking to US senate/congress and a scientist. And someone in the audience asking about contradictory studies (a fair question). Good discussion.

 

And you shared this video... Respectfully, it's hard to have a serious discussion with a silly video like this one?

 

The only interesting thing about it was I got a look at how they're trying to disguise these 5G towers - that was comical.

 

But cell phone towers next to shops & homes etc have been around for a long time...

That's a good grouping of serious people you hang around with.

Next time I'll try to remain on that route. 

 

Yes, it was mainly for that tree ...

 

And yes, cell towers have been around for a long time; 5G just needs more of them, shorter, closer to homes, every second building. 5G is the big push of AI replacing humanity. Do we want that? Yes, looking @ the news channels everyday; that's the only thing that can save us from ourselves. I see no escaping unless we smart things up. 

 

You? 

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What are our main interests are what makes us advance. I follow the flow no problemo. 

I hope my country will too, Canada. Right now they are swimming in a sea of bacteria, by not banning 5G from Huawei. 

 

The world is addicted, to disease and cancer. 

Only 26 people have more money than half the world's population (3.85 billion) together. 

No wonder children are dying from disease, cancer, malnutrition, toxic water, violence. 

 

It's a disgrace, 5G and all that bacterial jazz. 

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It is perfectly safe to live in an insane world; we have been adapted since Adam & Eve. 

...And from the last couple years even more so than ever. 

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In one of the latest short videos, a smart young lady says it intelligently:

It was the same thing with the tobacco industry and the oil industry, 5G. 

She based her words on solid scientific foundations. 

 

We the human race are an inferior race of animals when it comes to using our brain to the benefit of humanity and its environment, all things living and fresh air and water...our planet Earth. 

 

Where are they going to store toxic cancerous radio frequencies? ...In our radios? 

...Underground with all the toxic nuclear wastes? ...On the pristine beaches surrounded by the oceans? ...In the trees of the forests? ...In the atmosphere with the rain falling down on our lakes and natural drinking water reservoirs? 

 

Of course living nearer low populated areas sounds like the safest places, than overcrowded and polluted cities. But is it really, because if it's not 5G how do they know their water is safe from corrupted officials running their small towns with the big companies...oil pipelines, drugstores, antibiotics, landfills used for burying toxic chemicals, dry areas prone to fires, to landslides, to hurricanes, to heavy floods, ...? 

 

5G is like radio activity. ☢☣ ...Highly hazardous to our health, physically and mentally, and @ a much higher accelerated rate. ...Much much faster. 

And that 1996 written law is our free ticket in that very direction. 

It's our children's children who are going to pay the price; death. 

It's up to us if it's what we want or not, it's up to us to work together smart with our votes and the people we elect, it's all up to us to have smart laws that we change with the times we are living, for today and when it's time to rewrite them, it's up to us to say no to cancer and diseases and say yes to health and happiness, for all.

 

26 people have all the money in the world to use it for the goods. 

5G is only one of them ...

It's up to us to tell them in a language they fully understand...intelligent science for thé well being of humanity and our planet. 

 

What else can move mountains, the poor? They are the ones constantly pounded on the head and without zero resources. Why, because there's no balance, no values, no compassion, no good direction. Jobs and economy yes, health and safety (security) a bigger yes. ..A good job, clean in a clean environnement of telecommunication; without radio active frequencies.  

 

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Anyone here who like going fishing, playing golf, chess? 

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15 minutes ago, esldude said:

With the danger of 5G we don't need no games that originate from Communist countries. 

It's interesting ...

 

▪ https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears

 

▪ https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/huawei-cfo-arrest-follows-pentagons-ban-on-chinese-firms-devices.html

 

▪ https://nypost.com/2018/12/10/countering-chinas-cell-phone-espionage-offensive/

 

▪ https://www.zdnet.com/article/paranoia-will-destroy-you-why-chinese-tech-isnt-spying-on-us/

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5G - Canada & Nokia

• http://www.atimes.com/article/canada-to-announce-us30-billion-5g-research-deal-with-nokia/

 

We're going full steam ahead. A new era is about to begin ...

 

It's funny this all affair with Huawei, Canada, China and USA. 

It's like a nightmare, the ultimate fear, and everyone is playing so serious that it's like the economic future of each country depends on 5G. It's like the oil business, the tobacco industry, the pharmaceutical companies, the Australia, Europe, UK, Germany, France, North Korea, India, South Korea, Japan, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Gaza strip, Teheran, Yemen, United Nations, the big Wall ...

 

It's not about Axial, it's about the world of technology on a super fast highway lane. 

Radio gaga frequencies ...