Fas42’s Stereo ‘Magic’

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59 minutes ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Solved!

Typo- meant to ask why didn’t he pursue with the same system. 

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28 minutes ago, fas42 said:

 

Life happens ... 🙂.

 

A combination of getting incredibly frustrated, at the time, because I couldn't control and maintain that peak quality - it wasn't stable; and then a channel of the Perreaux went, and then a mid/bass driver of the B&Ws went bad. Yes, all things that can be accounted for, and fixed, etc - but it prompted me to move on; I decided to try other routes.

Now you are are talking like a typical audiophile. It is a normal behavior to find that your system not to sound optimum and lacking once your initial euphoria of getting a new toy is gone. 
 

Dr Henry Augus Bowes identified this as audio neurosis in 1957. It is your brain reminding you that the stereo sound is not natural.  

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2 hours ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

Oh,haha. I thought you meant the thread was solved,specifically there is no "magic" in Frank's "rig", just his head. I was agreeing.

 

Frank's nonsense is driven by confirmation bias.

 

We all know that if we listened to Franks system,as described, it would likely sound terrible. Frank would of course think otherwise to which I say all power to him.

 

What I dislike is that Frank needs attention and therefore spams every thread with his magic beliefs.

I think we should know by now that whatever magic sound he was referring to l, that happened 35 years ago, happened with a proper hifi system. He is still chasing for that sound with Philips, Sharp and laptops which will not materialize but he somehow believed that it did on several occasions. 
 

Sometimes, I also ask myself whether my tiny phone could produce the same sensation as my main system if I ignore the volume. It is funny that I can actually equate the same sound with the main system. It is just the state of the mind. But to believe that it is actually the same as the main system is just delusional. 

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2 hours ago, sandyk said:

Well recorded Stereo can sound very good indeed. However if recorded in say Dolby Surround, then down converted to Stereo, a good system can extract quite a good Surround sensation from just 2 stereo speakers, including with movies such as Avatar and many others, as well as quite a few Video performances such as The Eagles- Hell Freezes Over, and some from Queen such as The Game .

I disagree. Dolby surround is stereo plus surround. The stereo sound is always there whether it is 2.0, 2.1,5.1,7.1, 9.2, ATMOS, AURA3D, WFS and etc etc. You need stereo to produce the frontal stage as close as the original event.  Stereo is the simplest way.

 

When you refer to downsampled version of DTS or Dolby, how do you know it is the downsampled version?  Dolby surround is object based. Stereo recording is channel based. 
 

Most of my collection that I like were from original motion picture sound. The audio CDs will be in stereo. However, the videos or movies will have the songs in surround. how the downsampled the original version for stereo is depends on the mastering engineer. 
 

Can they sound more 3 Dimensional because they were downsampled? If so why as the front stereo is now supposedly produce the sound meant to come from the direction of the surround speakers. How do you think these can make the 3D sound? Are you referring to object or channel based audio?

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18 minutes ago, fas42 said:

 

ST, you work so hard at confusing yourself - it's fascinating to watch, 😉.

 

Not as confused or delusional as you are Who is trying to convince the world that the laptop speakers can sound as good as the B&W.   

 

18 minutes ago, fas42 said:

 

One important aspect of the SQ goal is that the speakers become impossible to detect;

 

You made this statement so please explain why that is so start with:-

 

Speakers wired out of phase, can make the speakers disappear. Can I now say the SQ goal has been achieved?

 

18 minutes ago, fas42 said:

 

 

this is when the fully immersive presentation occurs, and the acoustics of what's on the recording completely dominate - this has happened on the original system, on variations since, including the DIY amp, on the Philips HT rig - only on the NAD and Sharp combo has it not hit this particular high point. But on the latter it hasn't really mattered, because it can still throw a very deep and detailed soundstage, with tonality in a very good space - Led Zep I, say, comes over beautifully, with tremendous clarity of the spatial effects.

This is irrelevant if can’t explain the earlier. Anyway, I take it here the best sound sound you had was from the proper hifi system. That is the final word about your 35 years journey. 

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10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Stop the sophomoric posts people. 

 So my posts were sophomoric?  one delusional guy took us a ride for over thousands of post when all along he was describing the sound of an average high fidelity equipment and another one with damaged hearing siting with headphones lecturing me about downsampled Dolby. and my posts got deleted. 
 

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20 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Settle down. This is audio. It’s a hobby. 
 

Posts from more people than you were removed. 

 
That is the point. This is audio. Not about someone’s  mental condition or belief. I have always been open to others opinions irrespective of the equipments or background. Disagreement is normal when things involve subjectivism but that doesn’t take away the hard evidence. 
 

For three years, the Premium member Fas42 gave the impression that the magic sound was possible with laptop speakers or the Philips and sharp system. Now it turned out  that he was describing to a system that was made of B&W speakers and Perreaux Amplifier. The hobby has developed to hallucination. 
 

And another man with damaged hearing who listeners with headphones is describing 3D sound from downsampled Dolby. This is audio and I respond to that. But it was too late that I forgot that his post was liked by the forum owner otherwise I would have refrained from commenting as I believe that never argue with idiots because onlookers may not able to tell the difference.