sbank Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 wgscott, Sorry if you already stated so, but back in OSX, did you download the "Openhome Player" app and run have it running it on the mac when you try to open the IOS Open Home control points that are giving you trouble(e.g. Kazoo, Lumin)? After Cebolla's suggestion, I've got them both working fine but only one at a time. Like you said, trouble ensues when you try a 2nd control point app via tablet or phone without a total shutdown/reboot of everything. To get Kazoo working, I shutdown all, then reboot NAS, restart Mimimserver & BubbleUPnP Server on NAS, reboot mac & start OpenHome Player, then reboot ipad and start Kazoo. Same with Lumin, which is a winner for my personal preferences including AlbumArtist sorting. Hope I'm not just restating the obvious, but some of the technical aspects of this thread are beyond me. Digital Source: Synology DS415+ NAS and Small Green Computer SonicTransporter i5 Running Roon Core > Blue Jean Cable Cat6a >TP optical converter > Sonore OpticalRendu with Sonore LPS> Curious USB > Denafrips Pontus DAC Analog Source: Dynavector XX2 mk2> Audiomods Series 5 silver arm > Sota Nova Series VI turntable w/Condor & Roadrunner motor controller/tachometer > Nagra BPS battery powered phono stage> Both: BAT VK51SE preamp> Krell FPB300 power amp > Sound Lab A3 ESLs > > Custom room treatment > 50 yr. old ears(left-handed) Link to comment
wgscott Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 wgscott, Sorry if you already stated so, but back in OSX, did you download the "Openhome Player" app and run have it running it on the mac when you try to open the IOS Open Home control points that are giving you trouble(e.g. Kazoo, Lumin)? Sorry, only saw this now. Just tried it and it works as a proof that OH streaming is working ok. (It doesn't address how to control the Teac thought). I think putting this on an un-used Rasburry Pi for the bedroom system would be fun. After Cebolla's suggestion, I've got them both working fine but only one at a time. Like you said, trouble ensues when you try a 2nd control point app via tablet or phone without a total shutdown/reboot of everything. To get Kazoo working, I shutdown all, then reboot NAS, restart Mimimserver & BubbleUPnP Server on NAS, reboot mac & start OpenHome Player, then reboot ipad and start Kazoo. Same with Lumin, which is a winner for my personal preferences including AlbumArtist sorting. Hope I'm not just restating the obvious, but some of the technical aspects of this thread are beyond me. Thanks for confirming. I knew stuff was getting screwed up, but I just assumed it was user error. I guess it really is a limitation of the protocol. Link to comment
wgscott Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems Pono's OS X player software works (almost) perfectly (and presumably Jriver would as well). Right now I am trying to figure out how to keep it from downsampling to mp3. But the controls all work right out of the box. Link to comment
sbank Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It seems Pono's OS X player software works (almost) perfectly (and presumably Jriver would as well). Right now I am trying to figure out how to keep it from downsampling to mp3. But the controls all work right out of the box. Pono's software is defaulting or somehow downsampling to mp3? That is ironic beyond belief. Just saw Neil & a Pono on with Stephen Colbert. His "Toblerone" would never do that! Digital Source: Synology DS415+ NAS and Small Green Computer SonicTransporter i5 Running Roon Core > Blue Jean Cable Cat6a >TP optical converter > Sonore OpticalRendu with Sonore LPS> Curious USB > Denafrips Pontus DAC Analog Source: Dynavector XX2 mk2> Audiomods Series 5 silver arm > Sota Nova Series VI turntable w/Condor & Roadrunner motor controller/tachometer > Nagra BPS battery powered phono stage> Both: BAT VK51SE preamp> Krell FPB300 power amp > Sound Lab A3 ESLs > > Custom room treatment > 50 yr. old ears(left-handed) Link to comment
wgscott Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Pono's software is defaulting or somehow downsampling to mp3? That is ironic beyond belief. Just saw Neil & a Pono on with Stephen Colbert. His "Toblerone" would never do that! The DLNA setup procedure (once I turned off DLNA and turned it back on again) has you choose from various options. I also don't think you can generalize from what it might or might not have defaulted to for DLNA playback to my networked TEAC DAC. (I may have previously screwed up the settings while messing around with Pono or a JRiver demo.) I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this. In any case, the OS X free Pono softare, which is basically a version of Jriver, now works as a upnp control-point. Link to comment
Jud Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The DLNA setup procedure (once I turned off DLNA and turned it back on again) has you choose from various options. I also don't think you can generalize from what it might or might not have defaulted to for DLNA playback to my networked TEAC DAC. (I may have previously screwed up the settings while messing around with Pono or a JRiver demo.) I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this. In any case, the OS X free Pono softare, which is basically a version of Jriver, now works as a upnp control-point. I am glad it is working well for some purpose. Mostly due to my idea of the type of UI I like vs. the developers', I only use it in the one situation in which I'm forced to do so, downloading new music from Pono. Transferring any other music to my Pono is for me far quicker and easier with good old drag and drop. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
wgscott Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Taking my own thread off-topic here: Do you like your Pono player? I need something for the car, ideally with expandable storage space. (My iPod classic got stolen a couple of years ago. Never leave stuff in view in your car in a town full of heroin addicts.) Link to comment
Jud Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Taking my own thread off-topic here: Do you like your Pono player? I need something for the car, ideally with expandable storage space. (My iPod classic got stolen a couple of years ago. Never leave stuff in view in your car in a town full of heroin addicts.) I really like the sound quality a lot, and it's convenient to use in the car for me. MassDrop has very reasonable 128GB microSD cards every so often. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 No New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I don't think I mentioned this before... but another option is to run a LMS server and add the Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp) . Control is then via any Squeezebox controller such as iPeng or using the web interface. Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 I don't think I mentioned this before... but another option is to run a LMS server and add the Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp) . Control is then via any Squeezebox controller such as iPeng or using the web interface. That looks ideal. I will mess with it when I get a chance. Thanks for posting this. Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 I'm going down this rabbit hole again .... Link to comment
Superdad Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 9 hours ago, wgscott said: I'm going down this rabbit hole again .... Be sure to take snacks... and something to offer the mad hatter if you see him. UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Cebolla Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 On 02/07/2017 at 7:41 AM, wgscott said: I'm going down this rabbit hole again .... Is this going to be a regular annual thing? How about the Creation C5 app? Supports gapless (if you enable it in info/settings), the volume control works and so does the track position slider. However, its funky layout might take some getting used to and watch out for the ads in the free version! We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Cebolla said: Is this going to be a regular annual thing? How about the Creation C5 app? (a) I keep hoping. (b) Is there an OS X version? (I'll check out the iPad app). Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 That has to be the worst iOS interface I've ever experienced. Link to comment
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