KDinsmore Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 After Chris wrote how to do this I always convert my FLAC to zero compression. I have no idea but would any of this make a difference in DR? Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
Boris75 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 The degree of FLAC compression has no influence on the dynamic range. Link to comment
Robert Hutton Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 After Chris wrote how to do this I always convert my FLAC to zero compression. I have no idea but would any of this make a difference in DR? As a matter of routine I do, but if it has any audible impact (which I believe it does) it is minimal. Link to comment
Julf Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 As a matter of routine I do, but if it has any audible impact (which I believe it does) it is minimal. What mechanism do you think could cause any differences in DR between a compressed and uncompressed FLAC? Link to comment
firedog Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Personally, I've blind tested listening to wav vs flac and can't consistently pick out the flac. Conclusion: they sound the same (at least to me on my setup). But, I've started using flac zero compression anyway. Why? It's basically like having a wav file with convenient tagging . I've got lots of HD Space anyway, and just in case...it somehow makes a difference. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Julf Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Personally, I've blind tested listening to wav vs flac and can't consistently pick out the flac. Conclusion: they sound the same (at least to me on my setup). But, I've started using flac zero compression anyway. Why? It's basically like having a wav file with convenient tagging . I've got lots of HD Space anyway, and just in case...it somehow makes a difference. While I understand your "just in case" concern, I have to say that for me, personally, I just can't justify the added disk space and network traffic, knowing that if at some point I discover some reason why uncompressed sounds better to me under some circumstances I haven't yet encountered, I can always convert to uncompressed at that point in time, without any loss of data. Link to comment
Robert Hutton Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 What mechanism do you think could cause any differences in DR between a compressed and uncompressed FLAC? I have not found any difference in DR. Link to comment
Melvin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I have not found any difference in DR. Me either, but for the same reasons as firedog .. no compression. Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 HD space is dirt cheap so I continue to run zero compression. Also just in case. Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
sshd Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Using WAV/AIFF instead of FLAC is outright "dangerous". FLAC has a built-in checksum. If a hardware error occurs and your file gets currupted, you will get a playback error. You can also do a complete integrity test before running a backup routine. With WAV/AIFF you have no such checksum. Unless the curruption is in the tiny file header, the file will play fine. The curruption may or may not be audible, but your file is no longer bitperfect and the uncertainty is maddening... Was that click a flaw in the source or a problem in my file. All hardware will fail in time. Link to comment
Julf Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Another factor to think about is that tests seem to show that on dedicated devices (network streamers, portables etc.) where the CPU is more directly involved in handling network communication (unlike a PC, where a lot of the low-level processing/buffering is done by the network card), uncompressed WAV actually causes worse performance (in terms of jitter and other parameters) compared to compressed formats. There is a trade-off between CPU power used for decoding/uncompressing on one hand and hand ling network traffic on the other hand, and that trade-off is different on a PC compared to a dedicated box with an embedded architecture. Whether the differences are actually audible in a proper double-blind ABX listening test is another matter... Link to comment
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