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    The Audio Impact of  Solar Panels and Battery Backup: Comparing Sound Quality of Panels, Batteries, and the Grid

     

     

    The Audio Impact of  Solar Panels and Battery Backup:

    Comparing Sound Quality of Panels, Batteries, and the Grid

     

     

    Introduction

     

    I recently got solar panels and a battery backup system installed at my house. While this was a decision driven by many factors, as I described in my previous article, The Audio Impact of Solar Panels and Battery Backup: Introduction, Installation & Initial Listen, one of the important concerns was whether it would have a negative impact on the sound quality of my audio system. At the time of that article, the system had just been installed, and was pending PTO (permission to operate) from my local utility.

     

    The main audio impact finding from that stage of the install was that the addition of the Tesla Gateway in the formerly-direct path from the grid to my main panel did not degrade sound quality in any discernible way. This was a huge relief, as it guaranteed that I could always use grid power to keep sound quality at the pre-install level, just in case solar panels and/or the batteries degraded sound significantly.

     

    The evaluation of the SQ benefits or degradations due to panels and battery would happen after PTO. This is where I am now, so this article will continue the saga!

     

     

    System Progress Update

     

    To recap: the installation is a 12.33kW system, with 29x 425W panels, along with 3x PowerWalls, with a total capacity of 40.5 kWh. Here again is a diagram of the installation:

     

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    As is typical of these installs, the next steps to PTO did not go perfectly smoothly! The system failed the utility inspection scheduled about 2 weeks after installation. The inspector could not register any voltage (signifying production) on one of the panel strings. While I was glad he was being this thorough, the Tesla tech later told me he thought the inspector’s multimeter was set to AC volts, not DC volts. Who knows! In any event, it did cause Tesla techs to conduct a couple more testing sessions, which in the grand scheme is not a bad thing. The second inspection another 3 weeks later went without incident.

     

    SInce Austin Energy mandates a PV meter that they install to measure panel production, it meant that prior to PTO, I could not run my panels at all, as without the PV meter, there was an open switch between the panels and the gateway. This meant that for 5 weeks, I went without any way to use my panels and batteries. On the plus side, AE’s definition of PTO is once they install the official PV meter after the passing of the inspection. At least in this phase, I lucked out, and an AE tech came by early the day after inspection and installed the PV meter. I was up and running! As it was a glorious sunny late fall day, here’s my first production day:

     

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    It felt so good to return more than half the production of that day to the grid!

     

    After a few days of observing the system in operation, it was time to do some listening tests.

     

     

    My Listening Setup

     

    Here is a diagram of my listening setup.

     

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    Review Playlist

     

    Fall 2021 Review Playlist on Qobuz (US)

     

    To enable you to listen to the same tracks that I did, I have created a public playlist on Qobuz USA. This playlist includes the tracks mentioned in this review, as well as some of the others I listened to in the course of this evaluation. Please note that in some cases, the Qobuz track will not match the mastering I listened to, especially since all my listening was with PGGB-upsampled files. Still, this gives you a sense for the music I listened to for evaluation.

     

     

    Listening Tests

     

    In operation, the Tesla Gateway manages the flow of energy required to both meet the instantaneous demand from the home, and the production from the panels. This means at any moment, my audio system could be receiving energy from the grid, the panels, the batteries, or some combination of all three.

     

    My goal was to understand the sound quality of each energy source in isolation. To this end, I needed to do some configuration, either through policy settings in the control software through the Tesla app, or by flipping breakers. More on this later.

     

    Here is what the path for each energy source looks like:

    • Solar panels -> inverters -> gateway -> main panel -> dedicated audio circuit,
    • Powerwalls (builtin inverters) -> gateway -> main panel -> dedicated audio circuit, and
    • Grid -> gateway -> main panel -> dedicated audio circuit.

     

     

    Solar Panels vs. Grid Comparison

     

    To conduct this test, I started on a clear sunny day, and I minimized the loads in the home to ensure that during the listening, power would come solely from the panels. Here’s the app view. The panels’ instantaneous production is 8.9kW, of which 1.7kW is going to satisfy the house demand, with the remainder of 7.2kW charging the Powerwalls, as their current charge of 23% is below my setting of 80% backup reserve.

     

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    Since there isn’t a software-driven way to turn off the solar panels, I had to go to the Gateway box and physically switch off the solar panel breakers. With the solar panels switched off, the picture shows no production from the panels and no energy to the Powerwalls. In the US, utility regulations require that batteries can only be charged from panel power, and never from the grid, other than during weather events. The 1.0kW demand from the house is being satisfied from the grid.

     

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    Solar Panels vs. Grid Results

     

    In a word, these two configurations were indistinguishable.

     

    Keep in mind there were logistical challenges here. If A is panels and B is grid, it was possible to go from A to B within seconds, if you had a helper to flip the breakers outside for you. However, going from B to A was a 5-minute endeavor. Once solar panel power has been disrupted, it takes the Tesla Inverters about 5 minutes to reboot and start producing again.

     

    I tried this experiment on multiple days, and while on some days I could detect small differences, I would be hard pressed to identify them with any certainty. Let’s just say that the difference, if any, was miniscule.

     

    Could this have been the effect of my Sound Application TT-7 Reference power line conditioner? Impossible to say without more testing. Were I much more motivated, I would assemble a collection of PLCs and power regenerators, and assess this difference on each of them. I’m not motivated to do this comparison.

     

    All I can say is that on my system, with my gear, running off a dedicated circuit from the main panel, through the TT-7 Reference PLC, panel power and grid power were indistinguishable to my ears.

     

    This was a welcome result, and meant I didn’t have to do drastic things like turn off solar panels for critical sunny-day listening!

     

     

    Powerwall Batteries vs. Grid Comparison

     

    This was a comparison that was possible to do without leaving my listening chair, so it was easy to go back and forth within a few seconds per transition. To ensure purely grid consumption, my reserve threshold had to be set as shown:

     

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    Conversely, to go to battery power, I just had to set the backup reserve down to well below the current battery level:

     

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    Battery vs. Grid Results

     

    Unlike the panels vs. grid comparison, these results were conclusive, and quite delightful! Consistently, the Powerwalls sounded better than the grid. What do I mean by better?

     

    image11.pngOne track on Wagner Overtures & Preludes, Andrés Orozco-Estrada, Frankfurt Radio Symphony (Sony Classical, 24/48) illustrates this well. On Tannhäuser Overture, the piece opens with a soaring hymnal melody on the horns. With battery power, these horn notes soar higher, hang longer, and convey a more spacious image. Going back and forth, the battery source was very reminiscent of a PSU upgrade. I’ve heard a similar improvement going from a stock SMPS to a Farad Super 3, or from the latter to a Paul Hynes SR-7 DR. There is an opening up of the soundstage, allowing the music to breathe and feel effortless. Instruments sound richer and more fleshed out. Very soft passages have a greater clarity, suggesting a lowering of the noise floor. Most importantly, all these improvements did not come at the expense of dynamics, a common complaint with battery supplies.

     

    I’ve done this comparison now over many days, with many different pieces of music. I have yet to have an instance when I favored the grid over the Powerwalls. What about time of day? Granted, these tests were conducted during evening hours (no panel production), but this still spanned between 6pm and 2am across listening sessions. Even late at night, during a season when HVAC usage was minimal, the grid source never even approached the sound quality of the batteries.

     

    Of course, this still leaves many questions that are practically difficult to answer. What is the explanation for this effect? If the batteries are presenting a lower output-impedance power source than the grid, is that measurable? And, how is this effect related to the number of batteries in the installation? I have 3 Powerwalls effectively delivering power in parallel. Could I increase the advantage by going to 4 batteries? 5? What about the other direction? Does this effect disappear with one or two batteries?

     

    I’m not equipped to answer these questions, but it’s something on which we can seek empirical data as more audiophiles install these battery backup systems along with their solar panels.

     

     

    Conclusions

     

    I approached this entire solar + battery project with some trepidation about its impact on audio sound quality. My rather pessimistic expectation was that I would need to be on the grid for optimal SQ, and my fear was that even grid SQ would be degraded by the introduction of the additional infrastructure, especially the Gateway.

     

    I am therefore delighted with the results. The quick listening test in Part 1 dispelled my misgivings about the effect of the Gateway. Comparing solar panels to the grid, I was pleasantly surprised to find essentially no difference in SQ between the two, perhaps helped by my Sound Application power line conditioner. And finally, the superior SQ of the Powerwalls was an unexpected bonus!

     

    I now know that to achieve the best SQ in my system, I must configure power to be flowing from the batteries. This is trivial at night, but challenging during solar panel production during the day. If I really need the ultimate SQ during the day, I will have to switch off my panels and forego production. Shh, please, no one tell my wife and daughters!

     

    This has been an 8-months long odyssey, from initial order to PTO, but I am so glad we now have an operational solar panel and battery backup system in place. It is very gratifying to see days where solar production far exceeded the house consumption. The fact that I got an SQ boost out of this project just makes it all the sweeter!

     

     

     

     

    Primary System

     

    Music Computer:          Taiko Audio SGM Extreme Music Server, Taiko USB upgrade

    Headphone Amplifier:  Cavalli Liquid Gold

    Headphones:                 Meze Empyrean, Abyss AB-1266 CC, Sennheiser HD800 (SD mod)

    DAC:                                Chord DAVE

    USB to dual-SPDIF: Audiowise SRC-DX bridge

    Ethernet Switches:        SOtM sNH-10G, Uptone EtherREGEN,

      Buffalo BS-GS2016 (modded for LPS)

    Power supplies:             Paul Hynes SR7MR3DRXL (dual regulation, 3-rail)  for switches

                                             Sean Jacobs DC-3 for DAVE

    Power Details:               Dedicated 30A 6AWG AC circuit,

    Sound Application TT-7 Reference Power Conditioner

    Power Cables:               Sablon King (wall to TT-7), Sablon Prince (Extreme),

      Cardas Clear Beyond (DC-3, SR-7),

                                             Cardas Clear for all other components

    USB cables:                   Sablon Reserva 2020 USB

    BNC cables:                   High Fidelity Cables CT-2 in Schroeder config, JSSG360’d (DIY)

    Ethernet cables:            Sablon 2020, SOtM dCBL-Cat7, Supra Cat 8

    DC cables:                      Neotech OCC (DC-3), Paul Hynes fine silver (SR-7)

    Interconnects:               Cardas Clear XLR balanced

    Headphone cables:       Transparent Ultra cable system

    Accessories:                  Synergistic Research Tranquility Base XL UEF with Galileo MPC

      Synergistic Research MiG 2.0 footers

      Taiko Audio Daiza Isolation Platforms

     

     

    Acknowledgments

     

    Many thanks to the following companies for supplying cables and accessories to aid in this evaluation:

    • Cardas Audio, for a full loom of Cardas Clear cables.
    • Transparent Audio, for the Transparent Ultra headphone cable with a full complement of headphones leads and source terminators.

     

     

    About the Author

     

    _DSF1457_cropped.thumb.jpg.374fcb00f1b9abf63c1cefcb6168d35e.jpgRajiv Arora — a.k.a. @austinpop — is both a computer geek and a lifelong audiophile. He doesn’t work much, but when he does, it’s as a consultant in the computer industry. Having retired from a corporate career as a researcher, technologist and executive, he now combines his passion for music and audio gear with his computer skills and his love of writing to author reviews and articles about high-end audio.

     

    He  has "a special set of skills" that help him bring technical perspective to the audio hobby. No, they do not involve kicking criminal ass in exotic foreign locales! Starting with his Ph.D. research on computer networks, and extending over his professional career, his area of expertise is the performance and scalability of distributed computing systems. Tuning and optimization are in his blood. He is guided by the scientific method and robust experimental design. That said, he trusts his ears, and how a system or component sounds is always the final determinant in his findings. He does not need every audio effect to be measurable, as long as it is consistently audible.

     

    Finally, he believes in integrity, honesty, civility and community, and this is what he strives to bring to every interaction, both as an author and as a forum contributor.




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    2 hours ago, Bmansr1 said:

    Rajiv - Understand the whole house/green desire driving the project but at any time did you consider a stereo only alternative like the Stromtank?

     

    No, I did not. I am looking for reports from others who have explored such options.

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    I know an individual with the smallest Stromtank.  Last I heard he prefered his amps to the wall.  But he felt his front end gear was very good in a Stromtank.  

     

    Since I sm not that person and have to interpret comments,  I also feel he was pretty much as happy with the optimized electrical we did, as well as some AddPower equipmemt he uses, as well as some Nordost  products.  

     

    I would 100% hands down recommend a Stromtank to anyone in a walk up building with poor electrical infrastructure.   I also know the Stromtank will run perfect on a 15A dirty electrical circuit.  It is the best battery powered unit I have seen and heard.  

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    For anyone thinking of building their own battery system, keep this in mind, built wrong, one can be dangerous on multiple levels.  You should have a thorough understanding of NEC Articles 230, 240, 250, 480 and 690.  And probably 700 through 705. Remember, when someone tell you, do this, and your house burns down, or someone is electrocuted, and what you did was not code compliant and inspected by the authority having jurisdiction, do you think you will have insurance coverage?  I doubt it.  

     

    Doing it right is difficult.   What battery, what inverter, integration into the electrical system, charging systems, fire protection, overcurrent protection, fusing, service disconnects, grounding, branch circuits, NEC and utility compliance.   It's not a project to take lightly.  When I considered it, I based my goal on exceeding the quality of a Stromtank.  Otherwise,  buy a Purepower.

     

    I personally stopped as I did not have an engineer to design a proper filtration system.  And the rub with inverters is no company post the distortions or noise created by the inverter.  Non of the technicians at Outback, Sunnyboy or other manufacturers I contacted could provide any data as such.  As stated in this thread, how much noise does an inverter make?  

     

    And it has to be remembered, all secondary power supplies need to be bonded to the primary grounding system on the premises.   So you still have all the dirty neighbor common mode noise to contend with.  Unless you use a Pure Power or Stromtank and disconnect it from the utility.  Or truly build a stand alone, sit it on the floor in your listening room battery bank, charging system, inverter, disconnects, branch circuits protection system etc.  And again, if it fails and burns, you probably have no insurance coverage.

     

    Designing and building a hobby system that can not be repeated is all fine, but again, Pure Power, PS Audio, Stromtank have UL listed and labeled solutions already.  And all of these have been reviewed with mixed success.  How many threads have we read where the OP and posters have strong opinions in either direction.   Why is that?  

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    5 hours ago, KingRex said:

    Designing and building a hobby system that can not be repeated is all fine, but again, Pure Power, PS Audio, Stromtank have UL listed and labeled solutions already.  And all of these have been reviewed with mixed success.  How many threads have we read where the OP and posters have strong opinions in either direction.   Why is that?  

     

    It's the System, Stupid! :D  Yes, unfortunately any stock answer will have little value - because of all the variables in any particular system. Currently, it's a dance to find the right combination of accessories, tweaks, and the specific way that it is all implemented which ensures a best outcome, for SQ.

     

    It shouldn't be that way ...

     

    Why it is so, is because the industry just doesn't do the research, to get the data so that they can fully test the products they produce - to make sure that all this crazy band aid nonsense is not necessary. Smart design internal to an audio component is going to be far more effective in ensuring best isolation from noise interference; as compared with fiddling around on the outside, trying various barriers to hopefully find the one which does a good enough job - so that one can then forget that aspect of securing best sound, :).

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    FWIW, I am happy to hear another thumbs up for solar not being a detriment.  I wish Austin also had hungry power amps.  Its important to know.  

    Austin also has 3 power walls.  Thay is a lot of battery.  I am not intimate with the whole of the install, but lots of battery says to me the platform supporting them is probably fairly robust.   Robust is generally a benefit lending low impedance, hign current power.  Something most every audio system benefits from.  

    I really wish therr was a way to hear the results without the Gateway.  That type of equipment has shown itself to be an issue in my experience.   But no one I know of has inserted and tested gateways/inverters across brands, models and rating.   

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