JPlay IOS Questions

[dericchan1]

Just now, stefano_mbp said:

Actually if you select PCM in Output mode HQPlayer will convert everything to PCM

this is my HQPlayer embedded configuration that works fine with dsd from Minimserver 

 

No that’s not the case , in my case hqplayer converts everything to dsd because I set output to sdm. What I was referring to is when I play a dsd file, with minimserver, hqplayer will convert a pcm 32/384 file into dsd

 

with minidlna, no conversion took place, hqplayer will convert the original dsd into dsd 

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, dericchan1 said:

when I play a dsd file, with minimserver, hqplayer will convert a pcm 32/384 file into dsd

I cannot understand … can you elaborate? 

[dericchan1]

Just now, stefano_mbp said:

I cannot understand … can you elaborate? 

Say I have a .dsf file. Now that I am running minimserver connected to jplay ios, when I play the file, it gets converted to pcm which hqplayer then converted to dsd512

 

if I run minidlna connected to jplay iOS, when I play the same .dsf file, the original .dsf file gets sent to hqplayer for upsample to dsd512

[stefano_mbp]

4 minutes ago, dericchan1 said:

Say I have a .dsf file. Now that I am running minimserver connected to jplay ios, when I play the file, it gets converted to pcm which hqplayer then converted to dsd512

 

if I run minidlna connected to jplay iOS, when I play the same .dsf file, the original .dsf file gets sent to hqplayer for upsample to dsd512

Very strange ….

In this example I’m playing right now a DSD64 from Minimserver and HQPlayer receive a DSD64 file that upsample to DSD512

 

[stefano_mbp]

@dericchan1 try eventually to restart HQPlayer and then close (swipe off) JPlay and relaunch it

[dericchan1]

2 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

@dericchan1 try eventually to restart HQPlayer and then close (swipe off) JPlay and relaunch it

Thanks, will do.

 

 

[dericchan1]

On 3/23/2024 at 5:11 AM, stefano_mbp said:

@dericchan1 try eventually to restart HQPlayer and then close (swipe off) JPlay and relaunch it

So turns out Miska had confirmed the USB input NAA is currently for pcm only and will convert DSD to PCM so has nothing to do with Minimserver VS Minidlna. 

 

As to how to organize digital tracks with minimserver, I think I have come up with a temporary solution. It appears minimserver is not properly picking up my Chinese albums in Chinese characters, for example, a Chinese album with 10 tracks, 9 of which in Chinese character while maybe track has the English name say "Sorry, I love you". Minimserver only picked up that 1 track in the entire album. 

 

So now I installed minidlna for sharing my Chinese albums and Minimserver for other English albums and that worked fine.

 

 

[stefano_mbp]

4 minutes ago, dericchan1 said:

appears minimserver is not properly picking up my Chinese albums in Chinese characters,

For this you can ask Simon (Minimserver developer) on his support forum, I’m quite sure he will find/suggest a solution

[AudioDoctor]

21 hours ago, stefano_mbp said:

For this you can ask Simon (Minimserver developer) on his support forum, I’m quite sure he will find/suggest a solution

 

Simon has been helpful to me over there.

[J2ordan]

Another New Follow-Up

 

I purchased a NAS and installed a 2 TB SSD that was lying around. Added my ripped CD's (aiffs) and then installed the free version of Minimserver yesterday.  JPlay IOS picked it all up with one update and has been very responsive with this configuration.

It's all just settling in but might well be the end of a dedicated player.

 

Thanks to all for the insight bestowed upon me after posing my initial question.

 

John 

[dericchan1]

@Marcin_gps 

hi, I come across 1 issue I would like to report and hopefully the upcoming update with the “stop” function may address this.

 

so I use jplay iOS upnp to upmpdcli/mpd in my RPI4. When I press “pause” in the middle of a track, jplay iOS could not “pause” completely, and still spitting out sound every few seconds. 
 

Tried with mconnect and bubbleupnp - no issue with pausing

 

cheers

 

Deric

[stefano_mbp]

4 hours ago, dericchan1 said:

so I use jplay iOS upnp to upmpdcli/mpd in my RPI4. When I press “pause” in the middle of a track, jplay iOS could not “pause” completely, and still spitting out sound every few seconds

I have a very similar setup (JPlay/rpi4/RoPieee/UPNP) and I’ve never faced that issue … which kind of upmpdcli/MPD are you using?

[dericchan1]

13 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

I have a very similar setup (JPlay/rpi4/RoPieee/UPNP) and I’ve never faced that issue … which kind of upmpdcli/MPD are you using?

I use Debian bookworm version of upmpdcli/mpd

[stefano_mbp]

2 minutes ago, dericchan1 said:

I use Debian bookworm version of upmpdcli/mpd

Can you try with RoPieee?

[dericchan1]

11 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

Can you try with RoPieee?

I don’t use RoPieee, since I am also using the rpi 4 as a hqp NAA… 

 

but I have tried bubbleupnp, mconnect lite with no pause issue…

[stefano_mbp]

2 minutes ago, dericchan1 said:

don’t use RoPieee, since I am also using the rpi 4 as a hqp NAA…

RoPieee has NAA too … just to narrow the issue

[dericchan1]

2 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

RoPieee has NAA too … just to narrow the issue

But I need the latest V5 NAA because I am using both NAA input and output 

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, dericchan1 said:

But I need the latest V5 NAA because I am using both NAA input and output 

I do understand, but trying another Upmpdcli/MPD “flavor” can help to troubleshoot your issue … maybe there is some delay in your specific setup

[dericchan1]

Just now, stefano_mbp said:

I do understand, but trying another Upmpdcli/MPD “flavor” can help to troubleshoot your issue … maybe there is some delay in your specific setup

Agreed. It is a really odd issue. Not sure why other upnp control apps can pause cleanly but not jplay iOS.

 

i also tried jplay iOS to embedded hqp (no rpi4) and that works fine too