HQPlayer settings for specific DACs

[AudioExplorer]

Do modulator settings matter when upsampling to DSD with ESS DACs since these DACs seem to be remodulating the input DSD signal anyway? 

[bogi]

10 hours ago, AudioExplorer said:

Do modulator settings matter when upsampling to DSD with ESS DACs since these DACs seem to be remodulating the input DSD signal anyway? 

Yes, IME modulator settings significantly matter. Don't ask me why. We have only information which ESS provides and what Miska wrote.
I personally did not find a difference in sonic behavior of DACs with direct DSD and DACs with ESS chip when they are used with HQPlayer. My experience is that DACs with ESS chip react to change of HQPlayer filters and modulators in the same way as DACs with direct DSD.

[sumitc]

@Miska In my HT config the surround processor is limited to 192kHz PCM input/output.  When using an Okto DAC (8-channel) with my SSP what PCM settings do you recommend in HQPlayer for NS/Dither and DAC bits?  Thx.

[Escarbille]

Hello, With a Topping DX7 Pro+ DAC with an es9038Pro chip, which DSD parameter should be used in HQPlayer? THANKS

[Miska]

5 hours ago, Escarbille said:

Hello, With a Topping DX7 Pro+ DAC with an es9038Pro chip, which DSD parameter should be used in HQPlayer? THANKS

 

I recommend DSD512 output from ASDM5EC-super 512+fs or ASDM5EC-light 512+fs.

 

[Escarbille]

Thank you, so if I understood correctly, modulator 5 is for ES chips and 7 is for AK chips, is that correct?

[sumitc]

On 5/7/2023 at 12:27 PM, sumitc said:

@Miska In my HT config the surround processor is limited to 192kHz PCM input/output.  When using an Okto DAC (8-channel) with my SSP what PCM settings do you recommend in HQPlayer for NS/Dither and DAC bits?  Thx.

Just reposting this.

[cpcat]

At least for me, and Lampizator Big 7 MKII with JL Sounds USB card, I need to keep 48k DSD unchecked and auto rate family unchecked to prevent intermittent background tics/pops/crackling.  I have tried everything I can think of to “fix” this issue, but have come to the conclusion that this DAC simply does not fully support 48k DSD.   The DAC is a circa 2021 configuration.

[Miska]

On 5/12/2023 at 5:21 PM, Escarbille said:

Thank you, so if I understood correctly, modulator 5 is for ES chips and 7 is for AK chips, is that correct?

 

Yes, it depends on how the DAC is implemented. For ESS, the 5th order modulators work better due to how DSD support is implemented there.

 

[Miska]

On 5/12/2023 at 7:38 PM, sumitc said:

Just reposting this.

 

Just run fixed 192k output rate with TPDF or Gauss1 dither.

[juanitox]

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Run it at DSD256, with it's DSD filter frequency set to the lowest corner.

what do you mean by lowest corner ?   the SML D300 have a 13K  26K  or 52K cutoff 

[MarcMarc]

33 minutes ago, juanitox said:

what do you mean by lowest corner ?   the SML D300 have a 13K  26K  or 52K cutoff 

 

13khz at DSD256 will be 52khz cutoff frequency. With DSD512 U are at 104khz.

[MarcMarc]

I would need setting recommendations for the SMSL D300 as well.

 

Cutoff at 13khz, fixed mode. And I want DSD256.

 

Running on a M1 MacBook Air that I don't want to max out. Because the CPU gets to 70+ degrees super fast.

 

Looking for some "light" settings.

 

I currently have this running and the CPU stays reasonable cool and there is no skipping at all.

 

 

 

 

ASDM7EC light works as well.

[juanitox]

you 

37 minutes ago, MarcMarc said:

I would need setting recommendations for the SMSL D300 as well.

 

Cutoff at 13khz, fixed mode. And I want DSD256.

 

Running on a M1 MacBook Air that I don't want to max out. Because the CPU gets to 70+ degrees super fast.

 

Looking for some "light" settings.

 

I currently have this running and the CPU stays reasonable cool and there is no skipping at all.

 

 

 

 

ASDM7EC light works as well.

you know you are not using polysinc short or DSD5modulator  with DSD source ?🙂

[MarcMarc]

3 minutes ago, juanitox said:

you 

you know you are not using polysinc short or DSD5modulator  with DSD source ?🙂

 

So what I'm using and what am I doing wrong?

 

I'm still experimenting with what works and what not

[juanitox]

nothing wrong on your setting but Roon doesn't show the DSD filter  wich are   IIR FIR etc..

the filters shows in ROON are just for PCM /DSD conversion   not DSD /DSD upsampling

[MarcMarc]

Would these settings be ok or is there something wrong? I feel like a blind person choosing these settings.

 

I listen mainly to jazz.. and blues.. folk type of music.

[juanitox]

for PCM to DSD upsampling you could try Polysinc ext2  in both case less demanding than Sinc-LI  i guess 🙂

[MarcMarc]

4 minutes ago, juanitox said:

for PCM to DSD upsampling you could try Polysinc ext2  in both case less demanding than Sinc-LI  i guess 🙂

 

So I change oversampling NX from sinc-Li to polysinc ext2?

 

But the Modulator is alright like that?

[juanitox]

anyway   your dac your ears your choice .  but  Polysinc ext2 with ASDM5 x512   or ASDM5EC x 256 is what i use with the SMSL D300

[MarcMarc]

4 minutes ago, juanitox said:

anyway   your dac your ears your choice .  but  Polysinc ext2 with ASDM5 x512   or ASDM5EC x 256 is what i use with the SMSL D300

 

Oh I'm just asking in case I mess something up and it wouldn't work and just display something that doesn't actually work etc.

 

If you could just screenshots of your settings that I can double check everything, that would be great 😅😅😅

[juanitox]

[MarcMarc]

If I'm not mistaken (but my dark mode might be playing tricks on me) you have direct sdm enabled for DSD sources, and they do not get upsampled. ?

 

Thanks for Ur settings.

 

I have to start writing down what I tried already.

 

 

*Using ASDM5-EC super now.

CPU stays cool still.

 

[bogi]

49 minutes ago, MarcMarc said:

If I'm not mistaken (but my dark mode might be playing tricks on me) you have direct sdm enabled for DSD sources, and they do not get upsampled. ?

No, it's only such a funny color in dark mode. He has those checkboxes cleared.

[MarcMarc]

5 minutes ago, bogi said:

No, it's only such a funny color in dark mode. He has those checkboxes cleared.

 

Thanks. I suspected that. Just wanted to double check.

 

I changed to 44.1x256.. and ASDM5-EC "light".  Is there a reason to use 48x256?

My pcm files are mostly Redbook CDs.

 

Is there a easy way to integrate Crossfeed, PEQ or convolution filters (headphone guy) into HQPlayer?

 

 

(MacBook M1 air cpu stays at 50 degrees Celsius with ASDM5-ec light)