RobGoodison Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi All, PM 1.74 available now. Release notes available below: Release Notes / Changes 1.74 • Preallocate now usable on most computers with 2 GB or more RAM installed (previously required at least 4 GB RAM installed), provided that Pure Music is launched following a system restart • Corrected issue when using Preallocate which could cause a short snippet of the previous track to play if playback is paused and another track having a different sample rate then is started playing • Corrected issue causing clicks to be emitted when using the new factored upsampler with Preallo- cate enabled • Corrected issue preventing metering from being disabled across launches if Advanced mode in the sidebar was turned off • Alerts user when adding FLAC tracks if the source volume is not writeable • Removed requirement of needing special settings in iTunes to access FLAC files from iTunes playlist MacBook Air 13"/2012 > ALAC> iTunes/Fidelia(Advanced/FHX) > Meridian Audio Explorer Headphone Amp/DAC > B&O Play H6 Headphones. Link to comment
oski Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi Rob, this new version surely must be working beautifully, since no one replayed your announce. By my side it's fair to say that in my Mac version 1.74 is working flawlessly and sounding better than 1.73 MacBook Pro i7- 8Gb Mem - OS Mavericks - Audirvana Plus 2.x- Interface USB - dCS Vivaldi trio (DAC, Upsampler, Clock) - Digital cables: Crystal Cable Mod. Absolute Dream - Amplification: Boulder 2160 - Interconnects: Transparent OPUS - Loudspeakers: Wilson ALEXIA - speaker cables: Transparent Opus MM2 - Electric Filter: Shunyata Mod. Hydra Triton - Power cables: Transparent and Crystal Cable -Sennheiser HDVA600 > Sennheiser HD800 Link to comment
avi Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 There is a minor issue in that the second bullet point on the change log didn't fix the issue when running in "less is more" mode. Rob has already fixed this. Avi Link to comment
mgs Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 There is still the issue of occasional transient noise when changing manually between tracks with different sample rate. Michael Link to comment
oski Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sorry mgs, but I´m curious if this transient noise is produced by the PM software or the dac itself. To avoid this annoying noise I use to stop the song playing and then I start the new song having a different sample rate. It seems too tough for the system all, having to change sample rate without any gap in the middle. Anyway I agree that the PM software should be able to control this situation flawlessly MacBook Pro i7- 8Gb Mem - OS Mavericks - Audirvana Plus 2.x- Interface USB - dCS Vivaldi trio (DAC, Upsampler, Clock) - Digital cables: Crystal Cable Mod. Absolute Dream - Amplification: Boulder 2160 - Interconnects: Transparent OPUS - Loudspeakers: Wilson ALEXIA - speaker cables: Transparent Opus MM2 - Electric Filter: Shunyata Mod. Hydra Triton - Power cables: Transparent and Crystal Cable -Sennheiser HDVA600 > Sennheiser HD800 Link to comment
Lars Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I believe that different dacs play into this issue. When I was beta testing for another sofware player, some dacs had this problem, others not. I have had no problems with my Wavelength dac playing playlists composed of titles with different sample rates. Wavelength Silver Crimson/Denominator USB DAC, Levinson 32/33H, Synergistic Research Cables and AC cables, Shunyata Hydra V-Ray II with King Cobra CX cable, Wilson Sasha WP speakers with Wilson Watch Dog Sub. Basis Debut V Vacuum turntable/ Grahm Phantom/Koetsu Jade Platinum. MacBook Pro 17\" 2.3GHz Quad Core i7, 8GB RAM, Pure Music, Decibel, Fidelia, AudioQuest Diamond USB Cable. Link to comment
mgs Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 ... Rob has been sending me different builds of the PM software and I have been providing him with my feedback. With each build, some progress has been made (for example, the most recent one shows the problem only when the ratio of the two sample rates is non-integer. This leads me to believe that it is not the dac, at least not the dac exclusively that is responsible for this. I think PM is trying to mute the output while changing sample rate but something is not quite right with this operation. By the way, my dac is the North Star Design USB dac32, which together with the PM produces fabulous sound from its USB input. oski: What dac are you using? Lars: I take it from your answer that you do not have the problem when tracks with different sample rate switch automatically from one to the next. If you switch such tracks manually, do you still not have the problem? Michael Link to comment
Lars Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 "Lars: I take it from your answer that you do not have the problem when tracks with different sample rate switch automatically from one to the next. If you switch such tracks manually, do you still not have the problem?" Manual switch is still OK. On a very rare occassion, I get a tiny click. This has happened only 2 or 3 times with a great deal of listening, and it was not switching sampling rates. Wavelength Silver Crimson/Denominator USB DAC, Levinson 32/33H, Synergistic Research Cables and AC cables, Shunyata Hydra V-Ray II with King Cobra CX cable, Wilson Sasha WP speakers with Wilson Watch Dog Sub. Basis Debut V Vacuum turntable/ Grahm Phantom/Koetsu Jade Platinum. MacBook Pro 17\" 2.3GHz Quad Core i7, 8GB RAM, Pure Music, Decibel, Fidelia, AudioQuest Diamond USB Cable. Link to comment
mgs Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 What I get is a quite loud scratch-type (like from a bad scratch on an LP) noise. It is very annoying and the puzzling thing is that it does not happen consistently but occasionally and unpredictably - thus very hard to track down. I am thinking that if PM was muting the output properly when switching tracks then this should not happen at all, unless my dac plays a part, too. The only way to avoid it is to have PM upsample everything to 192KHz, which I do not want to do (as my dac upsamples by default everything to 192KHs/32bit). I am confident that Rob will come up with the solution soon. Michael Link to comment
ericuco Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I had been getting a scratching sound as well, usually on start up of PM. It occurred in my home system as well as at a friend's house where I only had my DAC and MBP so it had to be caused by either the DAC or MBP and related programs. Fairly confident it is PM based on the above comments. PM 1.74 is also shutting down frequently. Prior versions had been very stable up until 1.72(?) version. The change to the pre-allocation feature seems to be cause of the problems. At least that is when the instability started. (FYI - my MBP has 4Mb of RAM). Hopefully Rob will get these issues corrected soon. Eric Audio System Link to comment
mgs Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Never had shut down or any other problem, other than the transient noise mentioned above, with any of the recent versions of PM, including with the preallocate feature. I use a late 2010 Mac Mini with SSD and 8 GB of RAM booted in 64bit mode. Michael Link to comment
James1776 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I am having zero problems with the latest version from mid 2007 iMac through toslink glass to a Benchmark DAC1,,, I have found you an argument; I am not obliged to find you any understanding – Samuel Johnson Link to comment
oski Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Hi mgs, myself I haven't noticed any problem with transient noise. May be it helps that I have no different sample rates inside the same playlist. Anyway I use to stop playing when rate is going to change. My dac is a dCS system MacBook Pro i7- 8Gb Mem - OS Mavericks - Audirvana Plus 2.x- Interface USB - dCS Vivaldi trio (DAC, Upsampler, Clock) - Digital cables: Crystal Cable Mod. Absolute Dream - Amplification: Boulder 2160 - Interconnects: Transparent OPUS - Loudspeakers: Wilson ALEXIA - speaker cables: Transparent Opus MM2 - Electric Filter: Shunyata Mod. Hydra Triton - Power cables: Transparent and Crystal Cable -Sennheiser HDVA600 > Sennheiser HD800 Link to comment
Wotan Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm trying Pure Music 1.74. I like a lot, but I have a problem that I would like to know how to solve before buy. The gapless playback with "memory play" does not working properly. There is always a silence between tracks. With other players do not I have this problem. The tracks are played without pause. If I check the box "part of a gapless album" on iTunes, then works. But it is very annoying for me having to review all tracks. Is there another way? Any suggestions? My system: Mac mini (v.2010) with 8gb ram. Link to comment
Lars Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Pure Music gapless play depends on you selecting gapless in iTunes for an album. This allows you to utilize the iTunes interface with the program. Wavelength Silver Crimson/Denominator USB DAC, Levinson 32/33H, Synergistic Research Cables and AC cables, Shunyata Hydra V-Ray II with King Cobra CX cable, Wilson Sasha WP speakers with Wilson Watch Dog Sub. Basis Debut V Vacuum turntable/ Grahm Phantom/Koetsu Jade Platinum. MacBook Pro 17\" 2.3GHz Quad Core i7, 8GB RAM, Pure Music, Decibel, Fidelia, AudioQuest Diamond USB Cable. Link to comment
dgad Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I have tried a demo of Pure Music a few times. Each time it had some bug or another that showed up. But, I really like the sound and the ability to change sample rates on the fly. I just upgraded my Mac Mini w. a clean install w. a SSD, and 8GBs Ram. So I downloaded the latest Pure Music and had no problem playing a full album recorded at 16/44. I then tried to playback an Album of 24/176 that I have as an AIFF file. I purchased from Reference REcordings and converted. All my files are on an external WD hard drive connected via USB into my Mac Mini. They are tagged in iTunes as Gapless. When I choose to play it can only load 2 to 4 of the tracks out of 8 into memory. It then crashes at the end giving me an error message. Wonder if I am doing something wrong. I still have memory left over (3.5 GB available). I really want to buy it but on High Resolution files this has been happening. I am using Hybrid Memory mode. My DAC is a Firewire based Prism Orpheus. 2009.5 base Mac Mini, 8GB, SSD, WD My Book Studio II via USB, SL, iTunes 10> Prism Orpheus>VTL 7.5>VTL750>Maxx IIs. Link to comment
Lars Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 dgad, Do you have the option preallocate checked? It is needed for gapless playback. Wavelength Silver Crimson/Denominator USB DAC, Levinson 32/33H, Synergistic Research Cables and AC cables, Shunyata Hydra V-Ray II with King Cobra CX cable, Wilson Sasha WP speakers with Wilson Watch Dog Sub. Basis Debut V Vacuum turntable/ Grahm Phantom/Koetsu Jade Platinum. MacBook Pro 17\" 2.3GHz Quad Core i7, 8GB RAM, Pure Music, Decibel, Fidelia, AudioQuest Diamond USB Cable. Link to comment
dgad Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 It only loads 2 tracks as such of high resolution material. From reading what it does, it seems to hold onto the memory which will prevent it from loading the "freed up" memory. It also isn't loading the full memory since I have 3.5 GB left over. Any ideas. 2009.5 base Mac Mini, 8GB, SSD, WD My Book Studio II via USB, SL, iTunes 10> Prism Orpheus>VTL 7.5>VTL750>Maxx IIs. Link to comment
Lars Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 For the heck of it, don't check the hybrid play and see what happens. We have the same amount of memory and it works fine here. Send Rob at Channel D an e-mail explaining your problem. Perhaps he has a soultion since he's been through this stuff so many times. Wavelength Silver Crimson/Denominator USB DAC, Levinson 32/33H, Synergistic Research Cables and AC cables, Shunyata Hydra V-Ray II with King Cobra CX cable, Wilson Sasha WP speakers with Wilson Watch Dog Sub. Basis Debut V Vacuum turntable/ Grahm Phantom/Koetsu Jade Platinum. MacBook Pro 17\" 2.3GHz Quad Core i7, 8GB RAM, Pure Music, Decibel, Fidelia, AudioQuest Diamond USB Cable. Link to comment
One and a half Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 If you play files direct from the mini's HDD, do you still get the same problem? I find the WD drives a bit slow to start, the spinup/spindown is not the most responsive when you want it, perhaps this is causing a bottleneck with PM loading data. AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
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