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There are many YouTube experts here who supposedly could tell from the YT audio all about the audio quality of a system.

 

Here I am posting two videos that have been bothering me for a long time. I have refrained from posting my own version because I could not get the same tracks used in these recordings and I could not get the same combination of equipment to make a fair comparison. Having said that, I have been making binaural recordings for a long time and most standard stereo setup. I have also posted some videos which I made during this year AV show. Unfortunately, the following the audio of binaural recordings did not reflect how stereo sound would be captured binaurally. It looks like Sennheiser and Sony binaural microphones works so differently than Roland CS10em which I use. Or is there something else?

 

Can you tell what does not quite fit in this video?

 

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2 hours ago, sandyk said:

 Please name them .

I would be surprised if you needed more than one hand to count them with.:D


All those who thinks YT sound is unbearable. This is their opportunity to prove their point. 

 

2 hours ago, fas42 said:

Can't afford to watch this video properly, because laptop's running out of charge - went to the end where he describes the subjective experience ... yes, he's just talking about what a competent system should do; the sense of what the music is doing becomes so powerful, so enthralling - how many more years, 😝?


How sad? The laptop is against you when it matters the most. Once it had some response problem, then some major and now no charge. 
 

Anyway, you dont need hirez to tell something wasn’t as it seemed or sounded. 

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5 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 I am not saying it is unbearable,. I am saying it is almost useless for this kind of thing and I believe that most members are not interested in wasting their time discussing this further with you.

 To obtain any kind of meaningful results in this area you need high quality captures, preferably at >16/44.1 , and perhaps saved to Dropbox etc. where the audio won't be dumbed down, or can be downloaded from directly and saved in it's original format.

I have way more pressing things to do in the Audio area at the moment though , so I have no interest in participation at this time , even if that was done.


I have 24/96 too but you have more pressing things to do, perpetually. 

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I have completely forgotten about Mitchco’s binaural recordings. Thanks for bringing up his contribution. 
 

Regarding Jason’s recordings, do you honestly believe the sound in the video marches actual recording in-situ?  Balanced left and right despite misaligned microphones?  I am a novice in recordings but it must be a miracle that he could get the audio as in the video with such misaligned microphones position. More hints will come later. 
 

And about the other video. Did they really captured the audio there or was it recorded in different place or position?  Just asking. 
 

 

Second hint. 
 

 

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37 minutes ago, esldude said:

I assume the small in ear Sony's are omni's.  So they will not be picky about aim.  I've experimented with quite a few baffles.  You'd be surprised the things that work okay for stereo using baffled omnis.  As for balance and such I can't comment too much as the sound was literally right at each ear like two totally disconnected streams of sound.  I suppose I need to try them over stereo speakers.

 

The Sony is not really in ear binaural microphones. Capturing live performance and and phantom image of stereo playback is entirely different. 
 

You made one good observation about two distinct sound streaming.

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, esldude said:


 

 

The JA recordings clustered around each ear, but not only right at the ear.  The streams seemed loosely connected for each ear, and there was a little bit of image in between, but it was amorphous and ghostly.  But I'm the wrong person to ask about binaural recordings.  They just don't work for me like other people somehow.  

 

My experience with baffled recordings is they tend to have a whole in the middle until they become almost mono. They also distort relative angles of sound though if you weren't at the recording you'll never notice it. I've had in mind doing a Jecklin disk and using a thrid mike straight ahead mixed in to see if you could improve upon things.  

 

 

 

The clue is in the short clip attached. 

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3 hours ago, esldude said:

Yes I listened to the short clip.  Could hear mouse clicks in it as well it seemed.  :)

 

The clicks appeared throughout the binaural recording at the beginning of each track. Where are they coming from? It cannot be where they were sitting. Was there some sort of edit and retake took place else where? 

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37 minutes ago, Luciad62 said:

But if you have a wireless microphone, you can be sure you will get a rather clear and fluid sound. There should also be a filter.
 


Not following you. Why is a wireless microphone be any different from a wired microphone. Except for live performance I know of no established recording engineers using wireless microphones for recordings. 

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