"Audio Without Numbers" by Herb Reichert

[pkane2001]

4 minutes ago, NOMBEDES said:

Many of the quantum physics "abstracts" *  I read claim we don't have any....existence and/or consciousness that is. 

 

Quantum physics and consciousness -- there's a hot new topic to debate right after we finish with MQA

[pkane2001]

11 minutes ago, NOMBEDES said:

 

 

This indicates that we will "finish" the debate about MQA!!!

 

Just like we finished the cable debate.,,,

 

Yes, right after we finish those two we'll solve the problem of consciousness....

 

[pkane2001]

2 minutes ago, adamdea said:

18 hours ago, NOMBEDES said:

I am very confused about existence and consciousness.   

Surely not. Child'splay innit?

 

I know for sure that I exist, the rest of you I'm not so sure about. 

 

 

[pkane2001]

5 hours ago, sullis02 said:

All 'objectivism' boils down to, for routine listening , is: allowing that your impression isn't formed only by the sound waves hitting your eardrum.  

 

Shorter version: what you believe, might be wrong. To be more certain, you have to do work. 

 

Stated like that it should put to bed all the debates between subjectivists and objectivists.... Yeah, right!

[pkane2001]

1 hour ago, marce said:

How can people who know bits are bits be flat earthers, sorry you have the wrong group, it is those who are not tech savvy that tend to be the flat earthers in this hobby.

 

I've observed this in politics recently: the way to attack the opposing side is to accuse them of exactly the thing you're guilty of yourself.

 

[pkane2001]

26 minutes ago, sullis02 said:

 

What it *could* do is form at least a point of agreement.   Can we agree that subjective impression is fallible?

 

It's merely a foundation of scientific method, after all.

 

As you can see from the comments after yours, not everyone agrees to the starting point. And while I do, I find that I'm becoming more sarcastic and more cynical as I keep arguing the same arguments, often with the same set of people, ad infinitum. Maybe you'll be more successful at it