JVS Cheerleads an MQA CD..Sis Boom Bah!

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JVS:

 

"Now that I've heard the MQA-encoded FLAC files courtesy of Nonesuch (owned by "Big Three Major" Warner Music), I can attest that there's every reason in the world to hear this disc in the best-sounding format available to you.

 

Switch to MQA (mastered by Robert C. Ludwig in Portland, ME), and everything opens up. The more realistic vibrancy, color, and body of the instruments themselves, and their markedly increased, natural-sounding resonant interaction with the hall are impossible to miss, even through headphones.

 

 

(and more realistic and convincing with MQA),"

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/first-major-label-mqa-cd-steve-reich-nonsesuch#z5AS5hHCcmXMga26.99

 

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He makes a very misleading statement above, trying to imply that standard download was mastered one place,

and the "special" MQA versionwas done by Bob Ludwig. I have the 24/96 download, and it comes with a digital booklet, and Ludwig is listed as the only mastering engineer.

 

I will compare.  But in the meantime, go out and buy this  CD, and don't forget your MQA DAC!!! Run along!

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Speaking of Bob Ludwig, here is a "lecture" he gave in Nov. 2017:

 

Link includes downloads of his presentation in Power Point and Apple Key Note:

 

Starting at around slide 37, there is huge MQA sales job, mumbo jumbo

about time domain and blurring.

 

Then two, to show how "MQA works", two articles listed..guess the sources...have fun.

 

http://www.gatewaymastering.com/bob-ludwigs-parsons-audio-expo-2017-lecture/

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3 minutes ago, mansr said:

I really would like to get my hands on a track or two ripped from an MQA CD.

I would assume it is no different than the Tidal stream.

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9 minutes ago, mansr said:

A CD is 16-bit. Tidal MQA is delivered in a 24-bit container.

Yes, I thought you were referring to the "unfolded" track. 

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23 minutes ago, realhifi said:

Thanks for the heads up on this!  I wouldn't have known about it without your bringing it to my attention.  Are you SURE you're not working for MQA?

Nah, you would have seen it while trolling the MQA threads.

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Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

@Brinkman Ship You're causing me to receive emails about potential copyright violations. Please stop copy / pasting entire articles form other sites. Just use the snippets that matter to make your point.

this WAS a snippet, check link.

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8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Please copy less next time. 

Ok, will do so as to not cause you any headaches.

 

But for the record Mr. Atkinson has zero to complain about. I attributed the author, used quotes, and

linked back. He is clearly being petty IMO. Fair Use principles are clear as day.

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8 minutes ago, Ron Scubadiver said:

Admin has a point.

His only point, which I completely understand, is that he does not want to be harassed and threatened with petty claims.

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15 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

Just do what Chris says.

 

And we don't really need every example in the known universe..

YOU are asking me to play nice, now THAT takes the cake.

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4 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

It can't  so as I said, he lied, deliberately or otherwise. Mistaken = lying in my book. 

 

A wise UK judge-  "The jury is not here to listen   to your excuses, they  are here  to  decide whether you did it or not")

The MQA fold is packed on the disc, and unfolded by an MQA DAC. Probably no different than the "enhanced CDs" of the 90s with multimedia content.

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8 minutes ago, mansr said:

I want to see how they've allocated the bits in a 16-bit delivery format compared to the usual 24-bit. Something has to have been dropped.

That would be interesting to examine.

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2 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

He wasn't talking about nice,  but copyright. I play hard when someone is being deliberately obtuse or having asked a question refuses  the answer he gets.

 

The copyright claim with partial cut and paste, quotes, attribution, and link back is BS.  Fair Use. Look it up.

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Just now, realhifi said:

Nope. Only reason MQA keeps popping up on my radar is folks keep posting about it. I sure don’t go searching for articles on it. 

Right. Thanks for the laugh. You sure spend a lot time opening every thread...

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18 minutes ago, Ron Scubadiver said:

You could have made your point about the original article with about 75% of your quote left out.  With the facts here CA is not being harassed because the copyright owners are exercising their legal rights.  You need to learn how to play nice.

....people can claim anything they want...so you are a copyright lawyer?

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1 hour ago, realhifi said:

To be honest much of it has become entertainment and my post was pretty sincere about directing me to that recording. 

It is actually a worthwhile listen. The 24/96 download is excellent.

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31 minutes ago, rischa said:

I love how JVS slips a burn to MQA skeptics in to the comments, writing, "...I would venture a guess that if they put "MQA" on the disc, only in Japan, where I am told that people are far more educated about and interested in MQA..." 

 

But seriously, this is what I've been afraid of. I'm not much of a streamer/downloader, but have been following MQA in fear that it would infect my physical media. Please no MQA vinyl, please.

Not only a swipe, but a misinformed one. "I am told"...." , this is  how a "journalist" posts? This is unheard of. He fabricates an MQA market in Japan. Streaming is a disaster in the Japanese music market, aside from YouTube.

 

Spotify, Deezer, etc have spent millions trying to break the market with very little success.

 

No Tidal customers in Japan, no MQA in Japan.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cheriehu/2017/12/14/what-will-it-take-for-streaming-to-grow-in-japan-dispatches-from-tokyo-dance-music-event/#2639af1a5279

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3 minutes ago, mav52 said:

 Maybe these listeners in Japan are getting their MQA from e-onkyo music store

"" Japan is the world’s second largest market for recorded music sales worldwide. Music in MQA format is currently available in Japan on the e-onkyo music store, most notably recordings from acclaimed Japanese label UNAMAS and the entire catalogue of ‘Anime’ specialist label Falcom. Indie-oriented digital music service, Ototoy, has plans to offer MQA music later this year, including recordings from the Beagle Kick label. ""

 

And "" http://hiresaudiocentral.com/synthax-japans-rme-premium-recordings-to-release-mqa-music/

Um nice theory, but does not fly:

 

38.4% listened to physical CDs.

27% played their favorite tracks from ripped digital files.

9.7% listened to music downloads.

8.7% listened to online radio.

6% used free streaming platforms.

3.9% paid to stream their tracks.

 

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/09/25/riaj-cd-youtube-report/

 

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7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The good ole weasel words "I'm told." That's as good as the classic, "Some would say..." Both give you license to say anything you want without repercussions. That is if the audience isn't very astute. 

 

I'd cut a check for five figures if anyone could show me a more educated audience, with respect to MQA, than here on CA. It's especially not true of Japan, where the physical disc reigns supreme and they are buying thousand dollar glass CDs. 

Exactly, and a "journalist" should be held to an even higher standard for either phrase...fyi..see my posted links.

 

Been to Japan? I have, just recently, and the record stores are PACKED. And the lines are long. Came back with some sweet SACDs.

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I meant no "MQA widespread or even, any adoption". JVS claims the Japanese are more "educated" and enthusiastic about MQA.

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1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Come on guys. We don't need to go there. 

In principal I agree..you are right..but that was kind of funny...

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17 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

Whats 'ad hominem' about anything?

Back on topic.

 

Why in the world would I want to buy the MQA CD of this title, which requires an a CD player, MQA DAC, and not to mention all the extra processing when I can listen to the 96 Khz MASTER FILE purchasable from numerous outlets like Superhirez, HDTracks, ProStudioMasters etc.?

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/132307/Steve_Reich-Steve_Reich_Pulse__Quartet-FLAC_96kHz24bit_Download

 

Because Serenus says so?

 

 

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1 minute ago, realhifi said:

What about the posters?

I can safely say we have all had enough of the pseudo moderating done by you and a few other busy bodies. Chris is doing great.

 

Do you have any comments about the MQA CD? Otherwise MYOB. Same goes for your pal.

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Just now, crenca said:

 

 

Tell us @christopher3393 , just how long were you waiting?  Why were you waiting?  Are you the mother hen of CA, and if so who appointed you that role?  Obviously you not approve of the "tone" here in general (too "mean girls" for you in general, "another episode" as you say), and if so what does that have to do with audio in general or this thread in particular??

I have yet to see a post about MQA or a related topic.

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9 minutes ago, GUTB said:

So, can any CD player stream MQA through an SPDIF output?

 You ask a good question..

 

JVS says this in his post..."when inserted in a player capable of decoding MQA, it can deliver high-resolution MQA."

 

So WHAT is a "player capable of decoding MQA"? A CD Player? What?

 

I bet he has utterly NO CLUE>

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32 minutes ago, realhifi said:

I have.  I have read it online and just received the print version of the magazine and to be honest was distracted by other articles in it and (stupidly) missed it in the contents section.  Now, I've said it a number of times so I don't think it needs said again that I flat out missed it.

Your contention isn't that I'm blind for missing it (I somewhat could accept that) but that I am a liar.  That's not cool my friend. 

Dude, I feel for you...you stepped in a huge pile..and even I must say, these guys were rough, they had their way with you.

 

I can see why you were confused, MQA is part of the fabric of Stereophile now, and you just expect to see a large MQA logo on every cover.